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6 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

How many of those players are after Dan arrived?  No one is arguing that the farm was in bad shape when Dan came on board.

Dan has fortified picks, he has sold picks and has actively raided the farm for marginal improvements at the trade deadline.

No doubt he has sold and forfeited picks.  It certainly is not in great shape now and was better before he got here but that tends to happen when you are a winning team due to draft position and trading prospects at deadlines.  

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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

How many of those players are after Dan arrived?  No one is arguing that the farm was in bad shape when Dan came on board.

Dan has fortified picks, he has sold picks and has actively raided the farm for marginal improvements at the trade deadline.

Which certainly weren't going to happen in the years before DD got here, since we weren't in contention and wouldn't be in the market for those kind of trades.  Contending teams trade prospects for help now.  Also-rans do not. 

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1 minute ago, Number5 said:

Which certainly weren't going to happen in the years before DD got here, since we weren't in contention and wouldn't be in the market for those kind of trades.  Contending teams trade prospects for help now.  Also-rans do not. 

O's certainly could have forfeited picks to sign free agents, they did that before Dan got here.

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4 minutes ago, ChuckS said:

No doubt he has sold and forfeited picks.  It certainly is not in great shape now and was better before he got here but that tends to happen when you are a winning team due to draft position and trading prospects at deadlines.  

The point I was trying to make was that the players making an impact, the ones Dan likes to talk about, predate his arrival.  I don't think anyone looks at the current farm system and see the same degree of impact in the future.

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3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

You don't remember when the two headed GM gave up picks for middle relievers? 

Of course I do.  I just don't understand your point in this context.  Sorry, I just have no clue what you are trying to say by following up your first post with this one. 

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1 minute ago, Number5 said:

Of course I do.  I just don't understand your point in this context.  Sorry, I just have no clue what you are trying to say by following up your first post with this one. 

Yea, you have that issue a lot.

The prior GM did very little to weaken the farm and Dan has harvested the fruit of that labor.

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18 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

The point I was trying to make was that the players making an impact, the ones Dan likes to talk about, predate his arrival.  I don't think anyone looks at the current farm system and see the same degree of impact in the future.

There are three guys from Dan's drafts that appear to have solid roles on the 2017 team.  Plus there are others, especially relievers, that may make appearances.  That's really not bad when you've been winning.  

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2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Yea, you have that issue a lot.

The prior GM did very little to weaken the farm and Dan has harvested the fruit of that labor.

Your lack of clarity is certainly not my issue.  The two posts are not in any way, shape, or form supportive of each other.  I know you previously used "then", rather than "than" in a post where either word could be used in the sentence and, depending on which word was used, the meaning was very different.  I took you to mean what you said, when in fact you meant it the other way and, as usual, you blamed me for being unable to realize that you did not mean what you actually said.  Believe it or not, others not understanding you is not always their fault.

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14 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Yea, you have that issue a lot.

The prior GM did very little to weaken the farm and Dan has harvested the fruit of that labor.

We also used to draft in the top ten. And never signed anyone that forfeited a pick. 

 

Ah, for those days of a losing club...

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2 minutes ago, Number5 said:

Your lack of clarity is certainly not my issue.  The two posts are not in any way, shape, or form supportive of each other.  I know you previously used "then", rather than "than" in a post where either word could be used in the sentence and, depending on which word was used, the meaning was very different.  I took you to mean what you said, when in fact you meant it the other way and, as usual, you blamed me for being unable to realize that you did not mean what you actually said.  Believe it or not, others not understanding you is not always their fault.


You have had a reoccurring issue with diving my meaning for years.  It goes well beyond my use of than and then.

In this case Dan was talking about the impact of the farm on the current team.  I stated that most of that impact consisted of players that were acquired by his predecessor.  For some reason you and another poster decided to defend Dan to one degree or another.  I merely stated that his predecessor avoided doing things like forfeiting draft picks, which isn't something that is linked to being a contender.

Seems simple enough from my end...

 

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