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Just now, Dark Helmet said:

Yeah, I can't stand Heyman. He's like a meteorologist. He always says just enough, but mostly just implies stuff. Throws in a random team here and there, bit never a name. So you can't tell him he's wrong.

Oh, don't sell being a shill short. Scott feeds him good data. 

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12 minutes ago, weams said:

Spending the 8th most out of 30 teams is a start to increase that luck meter. Gives you more chances of getting to the playoffs if you invest more than you can afford to. 

Not if big chunks of that spending is on guys like Gallardo and Jimenez, and to an extent Darren O'Day. I'm still meh on the Davis extension. I don't think it was horrible, but tell will tell how much it affects the teams ability to spend elsewhere.

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5 minutes ago, big_sparxx said:

So when does that happen exactly? Looking at the clock we either invest/trade NOW, or we sit here next year talking about "if only". Are we one player away? Two? Are we hoping for Manny to put up MVP numbers? Are we waiting for Tillman to become a legit #1? Are you expecting miracles from Ubaldo, Gallardo...Miley? Oh even better... lets hope CD cuts his K's down by even 25%. That would be amazing. 

And while we're at it, let's sign Trumbo because hell... we went to a Wildcard playoff game with him... maybe if the stars align properly we'll make it to the Divisional playoffs.... 

Am I a debbie-downer? Probably. But I'm looking at the reality that if we don't change the outlook from contender to favorite pretty quickly this past decade moves quite quickly into woulda-coulda-shoulda mode.

Sorry.. the hope meter is running on "E":

I'm still waiting for you to explain what alternative course of action you have in mind.   

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1 minute ago, weams said:

Spending the 8th most out of 30 teams is a start to increase that luck meter. Gives you more chances of getting to the playoffs if you invest more than you can afford to. 

Then there's no justification for spending at all. I'm not about to accept the idea that we have top 5 payroll and can't invest any more. It's ludicrous and pathetic. You spend 170 million on a player for what exactly? The luck meter will drop off exponentially if we lose players... and we're still stuck with a 200 k per year guy making mint on our dime. 

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Just now, big_sparxx said:

Then there's no justification for spending at all. I'm not about to accept the idea that we have top 5 payroll and can't invest any more. It's ludicrous and pathetic. You spend 170 million on a player for what exactly? The luck meter will drop off exponentially if we lose players... and we're still stuck with a 200 k per year guy making mint on our dime. 

Are you talking about Britton and Manny then?

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Just now, Frobby said:

I'm still waiting for you to explain what alternative course of action you have in mind.   

At this point I don't have one. We have nothing outside of the starters worth anything. We are not dealing at all. At some point... something has to give. I just fear the time that happens and we look back at this era as the woulda-coulda-shoulda era.

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1 minute ago, big_sparxx said:

At this point I don't have one. We have nothing outside of the starters worth anything. We are not dealing at all. At some point... something has to give. I just fear the time that happens and we look back at this era as the woulda-coulda-shoulda era.

Woulda, what? Coulda, what? I agree. I would have loved to have won a World Series. Maybe Zach shoulda had the baby in Baltimore. 

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We're definitely spending, but in an PA way.  The money is mostly tied up into the "everyday" players.

 Instead of spending the 20+ million on a SP, we chose to take less "risk" and sign Ubaldo and Gallardo to 4 and 2 year deals.  Now we have 30 million tied up into patchwork fixes instead of a surefire FA Ace SP.  

We don't spend in the Caribbean.  We've hit big on Ed Rod and Schoop when we have.  PA is still burned by Miguel Sano and Andy Macphail's beliefs.  

This team is constructed to win but we're built around HR's and a great bullpen.  Unfortunately, we can't afford to spend on TOR SP's and OBP guys.  

As fans though we really can't complain.  The team has always done something at the deadline to try and improve the club.     Plus we're getting kind of close to the luxury tax for an owner that doesn't spend.  

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Just now, sportsfan8703 said:

We're definitely spending, but in an PA way.  The money is mostly tied up into the "everyday" players.

 Instead of spending the 20+ million on a SP, we chose to take less "risk" and sign Ubaldo and Gallardo to 4 and 2 year deals.  Now we have 30 million tied up into patchwork fixes instead of a surefire FA Ace SP.  

We don't spend in the Caribbean.  We've hit big on Ed Rod and Schoop when we have.  PA is still burned by Miguel Sano and Andy Macphail's beliefs.  

This team is constructed to win but we're built around HR's and a great bullpen.  Unfortunately, we can't afford to spend on TOR SP's and OBP guys.  

As fans though we really can't complain.  The team has always done something at the deadline to try and improve the club.     Plus we're getting kind of close to the luxury tax for an owner that doesn't spend.  

Which 20 million dollar pitcher wouda have been a good get?

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1 minute ago, weams said:

Are you talking about Britton and Manny then?

Absolutely. It shows commitment. it shows respect to the idea, and further more it shows to other players that yes, indeed we are serious and yes, we will spend. That's the first step. The second is to stop scraping the bottom of the barrel for rule 5 guys and has-beens like Gallardo and Jimenez. Pay attention to the basic strengths and weaknesses of the team. Team speed? OB%? Manufacturing runs instead of waiting for the long ball.... coach... get your hitters to hit... teach your catchers how to frame... seriously? Why did Matt suck at that? Who teaches these guys?

And last, invest in your minors. You have no room to move because you've ignored it for far too long. You have guys who don't improve in the majors... why? because they know that there's NOTHING coming in to threaten them. Adam will continue to swing at that low and away pitch because he knows he doesn't need to improve. He has no one pushing him to improve... and at his age, he probably feels that its as good as its gonna get.

I'm tired of hoping for improvement and not getting it. Evaluate your organization and fix the problems. 170 million on a player that swings at butterflies? psssssshhhhhhh.....

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Just now, big_sparxx said:

Absolutely. It shows commitment. it shows respect to the idea, and further more it shows to other players that yes, indeed we are serious and yes, we will spend. That's the first step. The second is to stop scraping the bottom of the barrel for rule 5 guys and has-beens like Gallardo and Jimenez. Pay attention to the basic strengths and weaknesses of the team. Team speed? OB%? Manufacturing runs instead of waiting for the long ball.... coach... get your hitters to hit... teach your catchers how to frame... seriously? Why did Matt suck at that? Who teaches these guys?

And last, invest in your minors. You have no room to move because you've ignored it for far too long. You have guys who don't improve in the majors... why? because they know that there's NOTHING coming in to threaten them. Adam will continue to swing at that low and away pitch because he knows he doesn't need to improve. He has no one pushing him to improve... and at his age, he probably feels that its as good as its gonna get.

I'm tired of hoping for improvement and not getting it. Evaluate your organization and fix the problems. 170 million on a player that swings at butterflies? psssssshhhhhhh.....

Ah. Yeah. I love them both too. They will both regress though. I would like to see it. Shame they will be good enough to price themselves into a big market. 

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8 minutes ago, weams said:

Woulda, what? Coulda, what? I agree. I would have loved to have won a World Series. Maybe Zach shoulda had the baby in Baltimore. 

Maybe... who knows. If you drive a car with a broken axle long enough it feels normal until it just doesn't move any longer.

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1 minute ago, big_sparxx said:

Maybe... who knows. If you drive a car with a broken axle long enough it feels normal until it just doesn't move any longer.

A small to mid market team has additional challenges that you are not considering I fear. I wish that we had drafted better back when other GM were in charge and we were worse. I wish when we lost for a decade and a half that we had drafted higher. 

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1 minute ago, big_sparxx said:

Then there's no justification for spending at all. I'm not about to accept the idea that we have top 5 payroll and can't invest any more. It's ludicrous and pathetic. You spend 170 million on a player for what exactly? The luck meter will drop off exponentially if we lose players... and we're still stuck with a 200 k per year guy making mint on our dime. 

It's always easy to posit that the team could spend more money to fix its problems.   So go ahead and don't accept that we can't spend more.   

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