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1 hour ago, VICIOUS said:

I'm just thinking he is probably the worst player on our 25

 

 

1 hour ago, VICIOUS said:

Perhaps if the Orioles had offered 600k they would have still beat him. It was truely a horrible year.

 

CJ was obviously basing his case on his overall track record. If he performs close to 2014-15, he will easily be worth $5M. 

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2 hours ago, Aristotelian said:

It's not like CJ was holding out for $400M. He is a borderline MLB player who may play himself out of the league soon with barely $1M in career earnings. $1M does not go nearly as far as it used to. I do not begrudge him the chance to go for $300K more. 

Yes, a million doesn't go as far as it use to. I don't think it was wise to think he would get more. He played fewer games and was atrocious at the plate. If he won that one, then everyone should go to arbitration. He certainly can't cry poverty. He is a borderline player and after this year he will have earned well over 2 million, plus the players share of MLB products (approaching 100K/yr..coud be wrong on amount). So, in 4 years, at least 2.6 m...should have a house paid for, money away for things like college ed, weddings, etc. So, for a 30 something he should be happy...at least fortunate that Wieters got injured, because, I don't think he was likely to see the bigs without that.

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1 hour ago, Redskins Rick said:

It could also be his last MLB contract, so why not get what he can?

Its not like he was asking for stupid money. Sure, it was a bit high for a backup catcher, but so are other MLB salaries around the league.

 

Because when you are coming off an awful year, you probably shouldn't try to almost double your salary. As i said though, Caleb is one of my favorite people and I'd be happy for him to make every last dime he can make, but from an outsiders view looking in, I'm not sure why his agent thought he could get the $1 million. I'm sure from Caleb's standpoint he was just letting the business side work itself out.

He's not greedy and he's not somebody who's going to pout when spring training starts up. I'm hoping for a big rebound season from him this year and then he should have no problem getting that million dollar contract!

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I looked around for a comp for Caleb, and decided that Martin Maldonado of the Brewers was pretty close to Caleb's level when he signed a two year, $1.9 mm ($800 k, $1.1 mm) deal in his first year of arbitration back in 2015.   At that point, Maldonado was a Super-2 who had a .651 OPS in 585 PA and had been worth 2.3 rWAR, 1.6 fWAR.    Joseph, also a Super-2, has a .614 OPS in 771 PA and has been worth 2.5 rWAR, 1.3 fWAR.   However, the big difference between the two is that Joseph had the worst of his three years immediately prior to his first arb season, while Maldonado had his worst year in his second season and was pretty decent in the year that preceded arbitration.  Based on this comp, it's not surprising that the arbitrator chose the $700 k figure, even taking 2014-15 into account.   

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12 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I looked around for a comp for Caleb, and decided that Martin Maldonado of the Brewers was pretty close to Caleb's level when he signed a two year, $1.9 mm ($800 k, $1.1 mm) deal in his first year of arbitration back in 2015.   At that point, Maldonado was a Super-2 who had a .651 OPS in 585 PA and had been worth 2.3 rWAR, 1.6 fWAR.    Joseph, also a Super-2, has a .614 OPS in 771 PA and has been worth 2.5 rWAR, 1.3 fWAR.   However, the big difference between the two is that Joseph had the worst of his three years immediately prior to his first arb season, while Maldonado had his worst year in his second season and was pretty decent in the year that preceded arbitration.  Based on this comp, it's not surprising that the arbitrator chose the $700 k figure, even taking 2014-15 into account.   

That was the first time I ever noticed someone's career WAR not equaling the cumulative total of their yearly WAR.  I guess it isn't surprising they track it further than one decimal point.

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