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16 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Yea, he obviously really hurt himself by not agreeing to being buried at Norfolk last year. 

What exactly do you think he can work on at Norfolk? 

playing time... ab's against lefties... defense... oh you know... all the things they do in AAA

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14 hours ago, InsideCoroner said:

I am doubtful Kim will ever be a plus fielder, but I think his bat alone will keep him in the MLB. I seriously enjoy watching him hit... something I can't say about a lot of Orioles. Normally I just hope they run into a mistake.

I know that there are a lot of people who enjoy the chopped grounder that finds it's way through as a offensive weapon. I, for one, enjoyed when he put it over the fence in Toronto. 

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9 minutes ago, big_sparxx said:

playing time... ab's against lefties... defense... oh you know... all the things they do in AAA

Right, a 29 year old who has been playing professionally since 2006 is going to improve his outfield defense in AAA. 9_9

As for hitting lefties we haven't really seen enough to say if he can or cannot.  Obviously he didn't do well against them in very limited exposure last season but his track record in Korea paints a different picture. 

That doesn't even factor in the truth of the matter, he would have had no guarantee of playing time at Norfolk, and no guarantee he would ever get promoted no matter what he did. 

Funny, even after clearly outperforming players like Reimold and Rickard some folks still think he should have known his place...

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8 minutes ago, weams said:

I know that there are a lot of people who enjoy the chopped grounder that finds it's way through as a offensive weapon. I, for one, enjoyed when he put it over the fence in Toronto. 

Those chopped grounders were hit very hard.  A few degrees difference in launch angles...

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23 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

 

Funny, even after clearly outperforming players like Reimold and Rickard some folks still think he should have known his place...

I will defend you on this. After his awful spring and conditioning, there were reasons to question what was there at the time. I never wanted to preserve Reimold for him. 

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39 minutes ago, weams said:

I know that there are a lot of people who enjoy the chopped grounder that finds it's way through as a offensive weapon. I, for one, enjoyed when he put it over the fence in Toronto. 

I enjoyed both.    Per BB-ref, among Orioles with more than 15 PA, Kim ranked second in runs created per game, at 6.0.    He ranked 3rd in wOBA and wRC+, behind Manny and Trumbo.    Despite limited playing time, he ranked 4th in Win Probability Added, behind Manny, Wieters and Davis.    Not making outs is very valuable.

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1 minute ago, Frobby said:

I enjoyed both.    Per BB-ref, among Orioles with more than 15 PA, Kim ranked second in runs created per game, at 6.0.    He ranked 3rd in wOBA and wRC+, behind Manny and Trumbo.    Despite limited playing time, he ranked 4th in Win Probability Added, behind Manny, Wieters and Davis.    Not making outs is very valuable.

Earl agreed with you.

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3 minutes ago, weams said:

Why? To train him better for some other team next season?

17 hours ago, big_sparxx said:

the tough part is his inability to be optioned down to Norfolk. He does himself no favors in that imho. He needs work, and will probably remain the "unpolished" player we see now. He has a chance to make an impression, and I like the guy, but I fear he's gotta turn some heads soon.

Evidently he "needs work". /shrug

Not sure what is "unpolished" about his game, he looked like a finished product to me.  I don't think any amount of polishing will improve his arm or give him more range.

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2 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Right, a 29 year old who has been playing professionally since 2006 is going to improve his outfield defense in AAA. 9_9

As for hitting lefties we haven't really seen enough to say if he can or cannot.  Obviously he didn't do well against them in very limited exposure last season but his track record in Korea paints a different picture. 

That doesn't even factor in the truth of the matter, he would have had no guarantee of playing time at Norfolk, and no guarantee he would ever get promoted no matter what he did. 

Funny, even after clearly outperforming players like Reimold and Rickard some folks still think he should have known his place...

You miss the point. If Buck, who gets paid to make those decisions, felt like Kim should have had more playing time, I'm sure he would have given it to him. If BUCK, felt that he couldn't play Kim against lefties then it matters very little if he's been the best player in Korea or anywhere else.

A AAA option might have helped, it might not have, but for the moment he is a damn awfully expensive platoon player.

Again, don't get me wrong, I like the guy. I just think new players in the league need time to adjust, and if a stint at AAA helps in that effort, so be it. He's still making millions.

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2 minutes ago, big_sparxx said:

and no... I don't want him to go to AAA this year. It would be redundant to do so. Last year... definitely.

I would have preferred a better option out in left field to begin the season. And not Reimold or Joey. 

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