This team is cooked

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Gausman and Ubaldo were awful in April. Bundy was OK, Miley had good results but was not passing the eye test, and Tillman was injured.

So 3-1 with a 1.65 ERA counts as OK now?

Miley had a 2.32 ERA

During the hot streak they had to start the season the pitching was good.

We are not nearly far enough into this season to say the rotation is "fixed".

 

[Canson80]

I think they win 65

[OriolesMagic83]

1 hour ago, jabba72 said:

The bright side is they may get a nice offer before the deadline for Manny, and will be under no obligation from Angelos to keep him. 

They'll know weeks ahead of the trade deadline that they aren't contenders, which is good because it takes this team weeks to make any decision.  Just see what happened at last years deadline.

Those calling for Buck's ouster, is this a winning team with another manager?  I don't think so.  You can't fire all the players, but you can trade most of the veterans.  This is a losing team regardless of what player or two is added. 

 

[Orioles0615]

All aboard the Tank Train, Choo Choo!!!

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, andrewochs615 said:

All aboard the Tank Train, Choo Choo!!!

[Uli2001]

Showalter is a good manager not great. He makes questionable in-game decisions, frequently. And now he appears to have lost the team. He is a hero to some Orioles fan for doing better than Trembley, Perlozzo, Mazzilli et al. Let's face it, the bar was set pretty low for him. A team that plays in a stadium like OPACY with a devoted fan base like the Orioles and the payroll he has had must contend, period. And right now, they aren't.

 

[FanSince88]

3 hours ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

The Orioles should be open to trading anyone on the 25 man roster besides Bundy, Mancini and Sisco.  

I'd trade Gausman, Jones, and Brach to the Nats for Robles and Fedde.  

[FanSince88]

19 minutes ago, andrewochs615 said:

All aboard the Tank Train, Choo Choo!!!

Yup.  If we are going to miss the playoffs, then I actually kind of hope we are terrible at least until the front office gets it through their thick skulls to trade Manny.  

[weams]

 

[VICIOUS]

30 minutes ago, Uli2001 said:

Showalter is a good manager not great. He makes questionable in-game decisions, frequently. And now he appears to have lost the team. He is a hero to some Orioles fan for doing better than Trembley, Perlozzo, Mazzilli et al. Let's face it, the bar was set pretty low for him. A team that plays in a stadium like OPACY with a devoted fan base like the Orioles and the payroll he has had must contend, period. And right now, they aren't.

 

Not Bucks fault. He doesn't play and he isn't the GM

 

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, VICIOUS said:

Not Bucks fault. He doesn't play and he isn't the GM

 

You don't think Buck has input into his roster?

[VICIOUS]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

You don't think Buck has input into his roster?

Certainly not the final say.

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, VICIOUS said:

Certainly not the final say.

So if Buck wants player A, Dan gets player A, player A plays poorly and goes on the DL with a hip issue (hypothetical scenario) it's Dan's fault?  He should have told Buck no and signed player J instead (random letter choice)?

[VICIOUS]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

So if Buck wants player A, Dan gets player A, player A plays poorly and goes on the DL with a hip issue (hypothetical scenario) it's Dan's fault?  He should have told Buck no and signed player J instead (random letter choice).

Yup. Dan is the GM

 

[ORIOLE33]

4 hours ago, jabba72 said:

Dont agree. Buck will decide if he wants to return next year.

Ive heard others say the exact same thing and I do not get this line of thinking at all. Why does Buck get to chose if he’s going to return next year? He’s not Belichick or Pop. He’s won gotten us to the playoffs a few times but he hasn’t won a thing.