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Mariners bring Aumont up - lesson for the O's? Or not?


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Mariners bring Aumont up for the pen, presumably to move him to a starting role when he can take it on.

Churchill likes the move and comments:

"On the surface this could tee off a lot of people, but it's a better alternative than sending Aumont to High Desert and using him in the rotation. Why? Because he has all of 50 innings under his belt as a pro and in a relief role the organization can control his environment more effectively. Surprisingly, I love this move.

Aumont may start games at some point in 2009, but this is a great way to monitor his work load, ramp him up properly, aiding the effort to keep his elbow healthy as he builds arm strength and durability, as well as shelter the kid from the California League."

Any lesson here for us? Is this a wise move on the M's part?

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Mariners bring Aumont up for the pen, presumably to move him to a starting role when he can take it on.

Churchill likes the move and comments:

Any lesson here for us? Is this a wise move on the M's part?

Our guys have enough innings in them to be starters (200ip) by 2010. With only 50 ip, Aumont probably is only going to jump to 100 ip. It will be interesting to see what they do with him in 2010 because he is going to have a HUGE jump in IP somewhere to get to be a 200 ip in the 2010 season.

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Mariners bring Aumont up for the pen, presumably to move him to a starting role when he can take it on.

Churchill likes the move and comments:

Any lesson here for us? Is this a wise move on the M's part?

One should be able to control development closely when the guy is in the minors. The only difference is that a last place team is wasting service time on developing a player who is supposed to be one of their key building blocks. Does Bavasi still work there?

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Its a good idea for their specific situation, but ours with our pitching is much different. Tillman and Arrieta both need to work on their 3rd pitch and go deeper into games, and a major league bullpen is no place to work on either of those two things. Matusz needs to get some professional innings under his belt and then he'll be good to go. If our starting rotation was full, maybe the O's would use this idea with Bergy, but thats not the situation either, as soon as they bring him up, he will probably be in the rotation due to our lacking of quality arms in there. I am sure by next year, some of our starters will have to be put in the bullpen, some for good, some temporarily just so there is enough room to give all the youngsters a fair look.

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I think everyone who thinks they know the answer to how to best develop a pitcher really doesn't. It's all guesses nudged back and forth by peer pressure and the collective bargaining agreement.

I think this is probably the best post on the OH when it comes to a discussion about developing pitching.

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