Big Mac

This is exactly the point I was trying to make. Even with modest MLB earnings compared to their peers, these people are set up pretty well when they move on from playing.

To be clear that is not what I was using him as an example for. I was using him as an example of a guy who had minimal MLB service that by all accounts was set up pretty well once his playing career ended.

I'm not sure the current status to be eligible for a pension, but at least in 2011 you only needed 43 days of service to be fully vested in the pension which started at $34k/year. Here is an article from the law firm Bryan Cave from 2011 that goes into this: https://www.bclplaw.com/en-US/insights/blogs/benefits-bclp/major-league-baseball-pension-and-healthcare-benefits.html#:~:text=Arguably%2C Major League Baseball (",a player for lifetime healthcare.

I'd like to use Tyler Wilson as an example. He pitched 145 innings over parts of three MLB seasons and made about 1.022M and has a degree from UVA. A player like him should be able to transition to a normal career and have a comfortable life. Plus again, he has the pension and health insurance for life.

I agree with this, I just don't think this should happen even under the current system unless you make disastrous financial and life decisions. If you play 5 years in the MLB and you end up in this scenario, you did something terribly wrong and most likely getting even a couple more million in your playing days wouldn't change this.

Right. So that would put you anywhere from 26-31 depending on how old you were when you were drafted. I expect those people to work again in some capacity yes. They are already ahead of other people looking for jobs right out of college with the guaranteed pension and health insurance, plus you know the millions in earnings. Not that I expect this from all players but it is reasonable to save enough for retirement on 5 years of MLB earnings even with the system under the current CBA. I'm all for the players getting a fair share of increased revenue and increasing their earning capacity early in their careers I just push back on the notion that they all deserve to be set for life after retiring before age 30.

All professional fields are littered with people who took non-traditional routes in their careers. It is perfectly reasonable to expect someone who washes out of pro ball in their twenties after 3 or so years in the MLB making almost $2M to be able to transition into a different career. Many of them have college educations already and if not they should have saved enough to be able to go back to school. I think it's unreasonable to expect every player who makes it to the MLB to be set for a 60+ year retirement from their earnings playing ball alone. If they are smart with money they should have enough of a cushion to buy some time to figure out what they want to do next after their playing career. Also, if you spend just 43 days on an MLB roster you get a fully vested pension that at least in 2011 started at $34k/year. You get health insurance for life if you spend one day on an MLB roster.

I've worked at a couple of large law firms and things like firm revenues, profits per partner, etc. are publicized. There have absolutely been times where these firms will boast about how it has been a record year and then things like associate bonuses and salaries stay stagnant which does not sit well with them. It's far from a perfect comparison, but sports are not the only industry where employees are in tune with how much the employer is making and to what extent those gains are being passed down, if at all.

Great suggestion, I watched some of the FSU series where he struggled but it seems like he has turned it on since then. I'm in Dallas so TCU, DBU and Baylor are pretty easy drives. I'll probably catch some games there too.

For anyone who is itching to watch some baseball while this mess is cleared up, I'd encourage checking out some college baseball. If you have an ESPN+ subscription, you can watch the vast majority of the games. I've been watching a lot over the past couple of weeks and its a nice way to scratch that itch somewhat. I follow UVA and Bama pretty closely so I'll stick to that for now...just hope the lockout is over by the end of the CWS...

I'd expect both Rodriguez and Brnovich to start in the AAA rotation and if Rom does not as well, I expect he'll be up to AAA in a month or so assuming he performs well. Peralta should also start at AAA whether it be in the rotation or bullpen.

Other than the fact he is going to play CF this take is spot on. I know there have a been reports that he can play SS...I don't believe there are many, if any, scouts that actually think he will play SS in pro ball.

That interview is a great example of why Keith Law rubs people the wrong way. He couldn't help but be defensive in response to any slight suggestion of a criticism for his rankings without actually answering most of the questions. He came across as a child.

Most likely yes. I'd figure the goal trajectory is for him to start this year at Aberdeen, play the second half in Bowie and perform well enough to start 2023 in Norfolk. If that happens, he should be ready by mid-2023.

I expect at least a modest bounce back but think it will be closer to his 2017 level rather than 2019. I went with .810-.839.

I think Santander will be hard pressed to go much over an .800 OPS without significant plate discipline improvements. Even looking at his 2019-2020 seasons combined, where he managed to hit 31 HR in 533 ABs, he put up an .807 OPS and a .261/.302/.505 slash line. If he somehow managed to get through an entire season healthy and have 600+ PAs I could see him hitting 35 HRs but his OPS would likely still just hover around .800. I went with .720-.759, I see him generally as a .750ish OPS bat. If his defense continues to decline that isn't very valuable.

If Tony saw it good enough for me then.

His stuff was poor in the majors...I am not so sure it was the same stuff he was throwing in AAA. I think something may have happened to him (dead arm, fatigue, etc.). It may have been the same stuff, I just didn't see enough of his AAA starts to make that assessment. Maybe you did and that was your takeaway. I will say I highly doubt he could have put up those numbers in AAA with the stuff I saw in the majors...

His walks were a little high but otherwise the peripheral numbers are strong. It's more than fair to say he was good that month in AAA.

Someone earlier brought up Pedro Alvarez's 2016 season as a best case scenario earlier. Pedro put up an .826 OPS and was worth .9 WAR that year...I don't consider that a nugget.

5.06 ERA and 5.17 FIP in 379 IP since 2019. That is a lot better than a good portion of what we've been trotting out there...

I think this a very reasonable thing to think about. You're typically the first to point out that FA is not the only way to spend money/acquire established talent. This can be done through trades and I think (and hope) that comes into play the next couple of offseasons.

He hasn't been terrible the last two seasons but I also wouldn't lose sleep over not protecting him. I think he has potential value as a cheap middle relief arm going forward, but those guys also grow on trees. Given the space we have on the 40 man I'd protect him if we can.

I was never good at math....

They screwed up the timing of the rebuild like everyone does. It's been three seasons, not four. As everyone on here knows we were going for it in 2018. Seems like an easy thing to get right and I don't understand how so many reporters screw it up.