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What happened to working the count and elevating the pitch count?

Don't call McCann a little pest! That's rude.

Why does it have to be among the top? Also, the D-Backs won 100 games and got to the NLDS in year two of their existence and won the WS in year four. That involved some spending. They certainly didn't spend five years tanking for draft picks.

I think it's fine. I don't think anyone here actually thinks it's going to happen. It's just chatter, chit-chat, chit-chat, chit-chat, conversation, contradiction, criticism. It's only talk, cheap talk

He's not young, he's 28. There is no evidence that it protects him. If there was evidence it would make sense.

In that case don't say. Don't tell me that you know there isn't an actual scientific reason to do something and then do it anyway.

It doesn't make sense for an analytically driven organization to make moves that lower the chances of being competitive for reasons that are not quantifiable. There is a ton of data out there on this topic. If they haven't found a link it's a pretty fair bet it isn't there.

Diamondbacks and Marlins won with it. So did the Yankees.

Or go on the IL or maybe sit on the bench. If he's got a quad injury I don't think running the bases will be good for that.

That's pretty easy to say with the benefit of hindsight. So you win Epimetheus.

Winning a title, say for yourself as a two time cancer survivor or for your ill Father-in-Law is not the same thing as trying to build a sustainable model for winning in the hope that trips to the playoffs lead to an eventual title. Houston is franchise that cares about turning a profit, that is one of their goals. Cohen doesn't worry about turning a profit. I don't think Seidler cares about turning a profit. I don't think either are super worried about what the team looks like in five years. (although the Mets really aren't in that bad of shape)

It's funny how on one hand he said there isn't an innings cap and that evidence doesn't support them and on the other hand they are trying to limit his innings. Which is it?

And I don't think then Elias turns down a GM job. How many owners do you think have winning a title as their top priority? I can think of maybe four and we are laughing at three of them.

Sure, I agree he'd prefer to win. Winning means more fans in the stands, more merch sold, higher ratings. But at the end of the day he's wouldn't trade the profits for a ring.

Doesn't Elias tend to drop a bunch at once instead of a slow trickle of names?

Evidently I wasn't clear. I did not say they were not interested in winning. I said I don't think winning a title is their top priority. Do you think the owner cares more about winning a world series title or his profits?

I don't think winning a title is the highest priority for the organization.

Doesn't Judge get a lot of balls called strikes against him?

I'm still talking about the Dodgers here.

I think it will be the Rangers, just saying some teams put value in world series titles.

OK? More than two teams per league make the playoffs these days.

They in this case is the Dodgers.

Because they'd like to win a title this year and trading for Ohtani would increase the chances of that happening.

Sure, I think Elias is too risk adverse for that type of move even if ownership OK'd the cost. I also think the cost would be higher due to the lack of attractive pitching prospects.

I'm not strongly advocating for an Ohtani trade. But I don't think it would be a sign of desperation if they did, I think it would be the type of bold move that has a decent shot at paying off. Similar to the Andrew Miller move which I still don't regret in the least. You don't know what next year will bring. If you are in position to win a title in a given year you have to at least take a close look at anything that will increase your chances.