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    “Orioles big game shopping & most believe it's exclusively rotation”

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    1 minute ago, Yardball85 said:

    Here is how I hope/see it lining up for the start of the season:

    1. Kremer (they'll want to start with one of their own)

    2. Free Agent (Bassitt/Taillon/Walker/Rodon?)

    3. Bradish

    4. Rodriguez (starts home opener)

    5. Gibson

    Wells and Voth as swing guys in the pen.

    Correction; home opener is not until game 7.  Still think that is how it starts out though, or something like that. 

    “Orioles big game shopping & most believe it's exclusively rotation”

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    Just now, LookinUp said:

    Gibson's a lock more than Bradish or Kremer, IMO. 

    If we add another high-level starter, that's a decent 5 for sure. Add 2 more and it's a luxury.

    Here is how I hope/see it lining up for the start of the season:

    1. Kremer (they'll want to start with one of their own)

    2. Free Agent (Bassitt/Taillon/Walker/Rodon?)

    3. Bradish

    4. Rodriguez (starts home opener)

    5. Gibson

    Wells and Voth as swing guys in the pen.

    Orioles Sign Franchy Cordero

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    1 minute ago, Orioles0615 said:

    He better not even be a bench bat.

    Certainly not an exciting signing.  Has some pop.  I'm okay with him as a spot starter like Nevin was last year, but this better not be them filling the Aguilar/Mancini hole.  

    So...uh, when does free agency start?

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    5 minutes ago, WietersCorner said:

    What do you think it would cost to get JD Martinez and two of this group: Walker, Taillon, Manaea? I think if we make these 3 splashes, the team will be setup for a playoff run next year.

    I don't hate it WietersCorner, but am not that excited about "upgrading" the rotation with 2 of those 3.  Really want Lopez or Bassitt, at least. 

    So...uh, when does free agency start?

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    12 hours ago, Frobby said:

    The talk about “lifting off” had nothing to do with spending.  However, I will be very surprised if our OD payroll is not higher than what Tampa’s is currently projected to be.   

    I disagree.  While it did not directly state that we would be spending, it seemed to mean that we would be "lifting off,' i.e. trying to win next year, i.e. bringing in players to reach that goal. 

    So...uh, when does free agency start?

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    2 minutes ago, owknows said:

    I've seen calls for signing Abreu, Correa, Verlander, DeGrom, Rodon, Bassit, Nimmo, Benintendi, and Eovaldi

    So... yes,

    What do you consider "lavishly?  Aside from Correa, Verlander deGrom, and Rodon, none of those players require "lavish" spending in today's market. 

    So...uh, when does free agency start?

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    6 minutes ago, owknows said:

    I see lavish FA spending as counter-productive to a small market team's long term success. I also see it as detrimental to the game.

    I'd think it likely, and perhaps even reasonable that the team would add a free agent middle of the rotation guy, paying perhaps a little more than they spent for Lyles. But if they can get more years of control, and a younger emerging arm by trading away players that they HAVE to trade away anyway.. why not do that? It would seem more effective and less risky... Might even offer more in-season roster flexibility It also clears the way for AAA graduations which will otherwise form a logjam.

    I guess I just don't understand the overwhelming drive to spend money just because you can.

    And I particularly don't understand the emotional histrionics leveled at anyone who suggests that trades might be more effective than FA signings in improving the roster of a team that has been losing for some time. It's been a little silly really.

     

     

    Again, they should be trading players AND signing free agents.  They should not foreclose any avenues to improve the team.  And frankly, I could not care less that they are crying about being a "small market team" now.  They have spent money in the past, they have a low payroll, and they can and should spend money to improve the team now. 

    So...uh, when does free agency start?

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    Just now, interloper said:

    God forbid we actually reach the expenditure of the Tampa Bay Rays, who by the way, do spend on free agents. 

    The entire, 25 man roster should be home grown and making the minimum.  The poor Angeloses should be able to spend as little as possible and keep as much as they can.  That's what's important to fans, not the Orioles themselves. 

    So...uh, when does free agency start?

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    Just now, interloper said:

    If Means comes back for more than 1 month of the season this year, I'll be pleasantly surprised. Anyone counting on John Means being John Means by July is smoking that REAL good stuff. 

    But wouldn't you rather take that chance than spend any of the Angelos's money? I mean, it's their money! What do you expect, them to spend it to make the team better? 

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    So...uh, when does free agency start?

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    4 minutes ago, owknows said:

    Am I really?

    The team won 83 games last year.

    They're adding Grayson Rodriguez.

    They're most likely adding Means sometime during the season.

    They're returning a young core of Kremer, Bradish, Wells, Voth.

    You telling me you expect them to get worse by replacing Lyles with Grayson and Means?

    You telling me you don't expect maybe a little maturation out of Kremer, Bradish, Wells, and Voth?

    And finally, are you telling me you don't think we need to trade some outfielders and middle infielders right now?

    Trade for a high-middle of the rotation arm. Trade for a DH/1B

    Call it a day

    I don't mean that as anything personal.  But you are way too optimistic and assuming that everyone will perform as well, or better, than last year.  I would not count on Kremer, Bradish, Wells, and Voth all pitching well and locking down spots in the rotation.

    And yes, we should trade some outfielders.  But why are you so against spending money on free agents?  We have one of the lowest payrolls in the majors.  This is EXACTLY what a successful rebuild looks like - having a cheap, young core, and supplementing it with veterans via free agency and trade.  That's what they need to do.  Thankfully, I think Elias agrees.  And unless you are an Angelos and your personal dollars would be going to these players, I cannot imagine why you are against that. 

    So...uh, when does free agency start?

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    Just now, owknows said:

    Yeah... things were much better when they gave it to Chris Davis.

    (on a more serious note, how much money do you think they have?)

    I'm not saying give out awful contracts like the one they gave to Davis (which I was against at the time), but you can sign free agents and have success.  You should be looking to upgrade the roster however possible.  Not going after free agents is as short sighted as not participating in the international market was.  

    And how much $$ do they have?  I don't care.  Elias said it is liftoff this year and they will be trying to add major league players via free agency to improve the team, so they should be doing that.  

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