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I hated it at the time though I somehow missed voting in the poll. I hated it again in my comment in the thread in 2016. And now. It was the worst Duquette move imho. I think I said something like wishing Dan had gone to Toronto...lol. Trading our remaining top pitching prospect for two months of a left fielder that did not move the needle in a season that was not going anywhere fast anyway. I supported the Arrieta deal at the time, the Miller deal absolutely then and niw, the Norris for Hader deal at the time and even now it made sense...I understood them. But that deal for Parra and the Snider deal were just completely perplexing. And, of course, Dan never deigned to explain his thinking to us fans anyway except for rosy, spin comments. But, hey, that is all water under the bridge and we are moving on!! On a Cubs blog, they were speculating about Trey and postulated Ian Happ and Adbert Alzolay coming back. Thoughts about that scenario? Sounds pretty fair to me off first glance. https://cubbiescrib.com/2019/12/05/chicago-cubs-trey-mancini-trade-target/

And the flip side of deals hasn’t worked out either...Duquette trades a now 26 year old Zach Davies for two months of Gerardo Parra And the analysts just were praising this deal profusely at the time....except for one who said well, Davies might be a good prospect , but you have to give up top pitching prospects to get a left fielder. It seems that kind of thinking is no longer what GMs think. https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bal-instant-analysis-of-orioles-trade-for-gerardo-parra-from-the-milwaukee-brewers-20150731-story.html

Yeah, just do me a favor and don’t tell Trey he’s “limited”. He hates that. He still thinks he has room to improve. You know those driven “limited” types. Just going out and exceeding the predictions of analyses and all. His performance must just be “driven by luck” like you say, because analyses could certainly never be wrong or over value certain baseball players and under value other baseball players...oh no...

Then Dylan would have had the no hitter.

I have zero expectations about any trades this team ever does....i voted meh just because I will defer to ME and crew as to who they want for whomever is on the roster right now.

He will be coming back to us if some GM is dumb enough to pick him..what team is lousy enough to fill a slot all year on their active roster on Cody Sedlock? We are the worst team in baseball and even we are not projecting him to be on our lousy staff in 2020. That is why he is not protected. A team that takes him would be just wasting a spot for 2020.

Excellent information....thanks!! ?

The return seems on the low side a bit. Not a lot, but a bit. But it will all hinge on unpredictable factors like player development. Either way, we will likely be running a lot of pitchers out there this year. I wish Dylan well but his career here has been disappointing.

Nah....we have weathered plenty of disasters. It would not be fun, though.

I have been on the "DFA Chris Davis" bandwagon probably at least since early part of last season....I understand all the arguments, pro and con and do not intend to rehash them, but rather to ask anyone who continues to see his presence on the roster as somehow absurdly inevitable because "Angelos doesn't save anything by releasing him".....just exactly how long does that argument last ? I mean until the very last dollar of the last year of his contract is gone? Or is there somewhere before that when his release from the roster becomes the only rational position for us as fans to take? Does anyone think he will be here until his contract expires (not the deferred payments obviously, just the playing contract)? I see no scenario where he walks away by retiring from any part of this contract, in any fashion or at any reduction of the obligations of this deal of any type. The ball is only in the court of the owner. If it is only up to the player, then the player will sit right there on the roster till the last day of the contract, imho.

I think the method is the method. It worked for the Astros. Perhaps it works for us. But I don't feel "screwed" at all...this is exactly what I expected the new leadership to do and I am willing to endure the downside to hopefully achieve the upside. Which I would consider multiple Series appearances and/or at least one World Championship. Nothing else will satisfy me. If Elias does not have this by his fifth year, then he will certainly get the boot.

Or (3). The Angelos family is preparing to sell the team.

I have liked all our second basemen named Jonathan...keep them coming! And I will not enjoy us returning to plodding. .

And maybe...in the back of their mind somewhere, maybe just maybe they can fix that HR rate. Arrieta was a lot cheaper than Bundy when we dealt him. But then Bundy is a much better pitcher than Arrieta was for us .

Another reason I am glad I am not a Marlins fan. And because their ballpark makes me nauseous.

Additional evidence of the still lingering Jake Arrieta effect...i.e. Orioles screw them up, we can fix them. You would have thought Kevin Gausman would have put a crimp in that...but, I guess not.

I agree he won’t be extended...I do believe there is a definite possibility that he is dealt this offseason.

So this would not be Elias’s call or jurisdiction in any fashion, right? It is all on the brothers to do this or not, correct?

Chuck Thompson’s is the only voice I hear from way back on those summer afternoons with a transistor radio sitting on the picnic table in my back yard while my family eats crabs. He was the Orioles and the Colts. “Unitas...Berry....touchdown” was as iconic as “Go to war, Miss Agnes!” His speech on being inducted into Cooperstown was as beautiful and warm as the man himself. That he considered himself a friend to all his listeners. He was.

He used to work for Angelos, didn’t he? ?

More walks.

Well, Mike Wright and Aaron Brooks have both up and signed with Korea, so I guess that rules them out. Maybe Chris Tillman would be up for a comeBack? Or Big Sexy? https://nypost.com/2019/11/08/bartolo-colon-is-getting-in-shape-this-winter/

10.4 cited in a publication does NOT mean that is what is going to happen and so Villar is ONLY getting 10.4 as the only possible outcome of an arb process. If the Orioles tendered him an offer at 7.5 -8 million, I would say that he could sign that tender. And if you then are able to deal him by the trade deadline, teams are well past half into the season, so , he costs the trade team less than 4 million, not 10. So really the question is whether 4 million from us for half a season and extending the possibility that Villar tears up the league in the first half, AND a contender say loses a second baseman and then he nets us a prospect AND he fills a spot until then on a 1 year deal when we have nobody being blocked is my calculation. But we are going to have to have somebody play second base, so this saves us less than 10 EVEN if the inflated number turns out to be correct and if it turns out that his replacement is a minimum guy (which we don’t have one to stick at 2b currently). But...it ain’t happening, so I am moving along. Good luck, Jonathan. Next?