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    Connelly: This time it really feels like the end for Chris Davis as an Oriole

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    1 hour ago, DrungoHazewood said:

    Preston Palmeiro and Chris Davis have about the same odds of having a meaningful MLB career from this date forward.

    One of the lessons of 2020 is that 80% of minor leaguers are just there so that Yusniel Diaz has a way to play games.  It's pretty irrelevant who the 19 anonymous bodies wearing BaySox uniforms are.

    Of course without games we never know who is in which group. Someone thought of as an 80%er, esp in the low minors, occasionally shows their worth and gets their act together. 

    Who gets protected from the Rule 5 draft?

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    1 minute ago, Camden_yardbird said:

    Mancini?  Why would anyone trade for him right now?  Why would the orioles non-tender a player they can just put on the 60 day DL if he is not ready?

    Also, aside, I would have some serious problems with the Orioles non-tendering a player fighting cancer.  The steelers kept Shazier on the roster for 3 years and paid him his money.

    And Nunez has increased all his rate stats and has a 117 wRC+.  He might be traded, he will not be non-tendered.

    I think going into next year you may see the orioles start to transition to the competitive portion of this rebuild, so I would expect the roster crunch will get even tougher.

    Agree on Nunez. Too cheap and has value to someone. Depending on how Mountcastle is viewed I would think Nunez is retained until Mancini’s health becomes clear.

    Hyde has "The Talk" with John Means

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    54 minutes ago, Philip said:

    I will say, that the average you mention is for the season, and includes guys that are no longer on the team, I think it’s more accurate to look at the starters pitch count at the beginning of the fourth and fifth innings, and see how many of them failed to finish the inning, and left with men on base. My point is that in an effort to get an extra inning out of his starter, Hyde allowed a risky situation. Hyde knows his pitchers’ optimum pitch range, And we are of course not privy to that information, but it sure looks like he goes beyond that range to our cost.

    My point is that I want YOU to look at their pitch counts in those innings and show that your hunch is correct. 
     

    Asher W, for example, by ERA our worst starter (we’ll give Means a pass) has gone 5 innings 4 times, giving up 4, 3, 2 and 3 runs. The 4 in his first start is the most he’s given up.
    Maybe there are examples of pitchers doing worse, and some sort of pattern to go along with it, but I’d like to see some evidence.

    Hyde has "The Talk" with John Means

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    6 minutes ago, Philip said:

    I’ll vote for Hyde when he starts pulling the starters at the right time, instead of, “One more inning....ok, bases loaded, better warm someone...boy, that ball went a long way, welp, time to pull ‘im.”

    Hyperbole? Perhaps a wee bit, but only a wee bit.

    You keep beating this horse but I don’t think I’ve seen any data on your end to support it.

    Orioles starters have gone 4.4IP per start which is below the league average and in the bottom 3rd of the league. Even in a shortened season with expanded rosters, it’s not a great idea to expect the bullpen to go 4+ innings every night. Everyone would like Hyde to know exactly when his pitchers have had it and pull them accordingly, but it clearly isn’t that easy. And even then, he may know and be weighing the fact that the bullpen is tired or will be tired after playing 4 more games in a row. 

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    What if this is the next O's contending team?

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    3 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

    I think it is safe to say that not all of the playoff teams in 2020 would be considered good by traditional metrics.

    I’m almost just as interested in the converse:: are there any teams not slated to make it that would have the talent to turn it around over 162?

    The Brewers and Angels stand out, the Nationals as well, though I think their division is tougher.

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    O’s-Mets 9-8

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    17 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    This one time this player hit home runs in 5 consecutive games.  Just two years later he played in 49 games and didn't have a single RBI the whole season. 

    Baseball.

    When was the testicular accident?

    Update: Davis Activated! Davis to IL with knee injury

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    8 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

    This sucks.  It's a surefire way for whatever mojo this team had going to bring Davis back into the fold.  It makes no sense on a number of levels.  

    But if I'm a guy like DJ Stewart who gets at bats slashed in half because of the presence of Chris Davis, I'd probably be irate.  That guy has something to prove and while Davis does too, Davis also has no shot in proving it.  He's been trying to do it already SINCE 2017.  

    Like whatever feel good mojo this team has had off Mountcastle, Akin and Kremer, it's been dashed by the dark lord of strikeouts and ineptitude, Chris Davis.

    Maybe Davis has told them he is retiring after the year and this is his last ditch effort to leave with some kind of dignity?

    How do you like the new “three batter” rule?

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    27 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

    They need to brainstorm some ideas on how to better enforce the pitch clock and batter stepping out.  Like have a green light somewhere next to the pitch clock, and have several at various points around the stadium, and have a graphic on the TV and the MLB app that shows the pitch clock and the light.  Get people used to 17 seconds of green light, then at 18 it goes yellow, then at 20 it's red and the batter gets a ball.  Automatically.  If you can't figure out the signs, do better next time and you won't get a ball called.

    If the batter steps out the ump doesn't move a finger.  You just don't get a timeout.  If you want to get "invisible dirt" out of your eye, or adjust your batting gloves like Nomar, step out.  But you're risking taking a called strike.  The pitcher is going to throw a pitch before 20 seconds.  If you didn't catch the third base coach's sign, then pay more attention. I'd probably be okay with a rule that says you get an automatic called strike if you step out of the batters box and your bat isn't broken.

    The oldtimers who don't like this should spend more time watching footage of games from 50 or 75 years ago when all was right with the world and you could be driving home from a 7:00 MLB game at 9:15.  Then shake your fists at the youngins who can't finish nine innings in three hours and 10 minutes.

    The invisible dirt in the eye trick is hilarious. I have never seen so many people completely incapacitated by a speck of dirt in such a specific and repeatable moment. If it were me, I would consider wearing goggles or something.

    If only Elias hadn't traded the 11th best player in baseball (Bundy) for next to nothing

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    37 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

    Castro had 4.34 ERA in 6 seasons pitching in the pen ...So lets not pretend that he's horrible.

    I will be more interested in the other component to the deal and think that its pretty much a wash at this point. If Smith ends up being a 5+ ERA 5th starter or long man I am sure how much value that will have on our next winning team. But perhaps your right!

    I am not a big Castro fan and dont care if he's here or not. But, I'm not convinced that the trade is the big win that some of you think it is! And as I mentioned to SG, I could give a rats a-hole about the money saved this year or the $3million next year that will be added to the Peter Angelos Inheritance fund that will never be seen again.

    I am a Castro fan, I think he can be a very effective ML reliever. The question isn’t about how good Castro will be, the question is when the Orioles will be good. You want as many controlled/controllable assets as possible at that time, which is what Smith will he and Castro will not.

    If only Elias hadn't traded the 11th best player in baseball (Bundy) for next to nothing

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    3 hours ago, Aristotelian said:

    What do you mean that Elias has been given more to work with? He inherited a terrible farm system with no prospects outside of Mountcastle, and one of (perhaps the) worst contract in all of baseball history. The one thing he has been given is relative autonomy, and that may in the long run be more valuable.

    Not sure how you come up with “no prospects.” There were 2 guys ahead of Mountcastle on the prospect list acquired by Duquette. In fact, pretty much all the players fans are excited about now (including Hays, Mountcastle, Santander, Akin, Kremer) were brought in by DD.

    In two drafts Elias has seemingly done a fantastic job adding depth to the farm system in crucial areas and we have seen a number of prospects improve. But to act like the increase in overall ranking is solely due to Elias is crazy.

    If only Elias hadn't traded the 11th best player in baseball (Bundy) for next to nothing

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    3 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

    If Smith ends up being a 4A player the deal would look really bad later. I dont care that he just blew a lead. With Castro you get a hard throwing guy that struggles with control. Some games he looks brilliant and some games he will look lost. A good manager will exploit that when he's on and have a quick hook when he's not.

    Saying hes not good is an exaggeration that your using to make your argument. There are many MLB relievers who are worse

    Smith having the potential to be a back of the rotation starter has more value to a winning Orioles team than a guy that is a suspect reliever who is a FA in 2 years. And I liked Castro.

    Also, the managers quick hook doesn’t exist anymore.

    Today might be the best I’ve felt about the Orioles in four years

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    1 hour ago, Philip said:

    I was looking for wildcard’s enthusiastic  post, because I think this comment would be best posted there, but this is as good a place as any, I suppose.
     

    This is not the team that started the season, let’s look at the additions and subtractions:

    In the position department, we lost Davis( Let Joy be unconfined!)Smith, Hays, Santander, And, on the infield, Iglesias for a time.

    We've added Mountcastle, Stewart, Iglesias, Mullins, Velasquez, Williams.

    Mountcastle hasn’t been challenged on defense yet, and Stewart had one misplay off the wall that didn’t cost too much. If Stewart is finding his stroke to match his excellent eye, and Mullins and Williams keep contributing on defense, that’s at least equal to the Smith/Hays/Santander  group.

    We really missed Iglesias in the infield, but he’s back so the infield is stable. Ruiz is faltering, but Valaika can replace him at 3rd, maybe?

    Overall, the position players are a better group.

    but the pitching seems to have really improved enough to make a difference in the rest of the season.

    If we can go 11 and 10 the rest of the way, we finish at .500. But because we’re playing the Yankees and Blue Jays so much, if we finish 11 and 10 it will be against them in large part, so we could conceivably pass them both, and Yankees have real injury problems, and might be vulnerable.

    While we wait for Wildcard’s enthusiastic post, can you provide your TLDR post?

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