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Good roundtable about winter meetings with JD, Bowden, and Phillips. More about their thoughts later but two blown up deals were shared that I thought were interesting and hadn't heard CONFIRMED before.

JD said he had a deal done with Angels to trade Tejada for Ervin Santana and Erik Aybar. When he sought final approval the O's higher ups made him go back and ask for....wait for it...Kotchman! The Angels said no and the deal fell apart. Given his history on OH, I thought the Kotchman tidbit was pretty funny.

Too bad that deal didn't get done and I was surprised he gave the details.

Bowden said he'd locked down the Griffey deal a couple of days before the winter meetings and flew there expecting to get it done on day one. When he landed, ownership said they were backing out but that he couldn't tell the Mariners that. So Bowden essentially went hard line on a throw in prospect in order to make it look like he was the one killing the deal. It died and got resurrected a couple of months later.

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Good roundtable about winter meetings with JD, Bowden, and Phillips. More about their thoughts later but two blown up deals were shared that I thought were interesting and hadn't heard CONFIRMED before.

JD said he had a deal done with Angels to trade Tejada for Ervin Santana and Erik Aybar. When he sought final approval the O's higher ups made him go back and ask for....wait for it...Kotchman! The Angels said no and the deal fell apart. Given his history on OH, I thought the Kotchman tidbit was pretty funny.

Too bad that deal didn't get done and I was surprised he gave the details.

Bowden said he'd locked down the Griffey deal a couple of days before the winter meetings and flew there expecting to get it done on day one. When he landed, ownership said they were backing out but that he couldn't tell the Mariners that. So Bowden essentially went hard line on a throw in prospect in order to make it look like he was the one killing the deal. It died and got resurrected a couple of months later.

Even for all the beefs with our own owner over the years... this is hard core low! "We don't want it but throw yourself under the bus!"

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Good roundtable about winter meetings with JD, Bowden, and Phillips. More about their thoughts later but two blown up deals were shared that I thought were interesting and hadn't heard CONFIRMED before.

JD said he had a deal done with Angels to trade Tejada for Ervin Santana and Erik Aybar. When he sought final approval the O's higher ups made him go back and ask for....wait for it...Kotchman! The Angels said no and the deal fell apart. Given his history on OH, I thought the Kotchman tidbit was pretty funny.

Too bad that deal didn't get done and I was surprised he gave the details.

Bowden said he'd locked down the Griffey deal a couple of days before the winter meetings and flew there expecting to get it done on day one. When he landed, ownership said they were backing out but that he couldn't tell the Mariners that. So Bowden essentially went hard line on a throw in prospect in order to make it look like he was the one killing the deal. It died and got resurrected a couple of months later.

What Griffey deal?

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When the Reds acquired Griffey from the Mariners.

Awww I thought it was O's related... didn't see Bowden as the Griffey storyteller. Thanks!

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