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The only team the Orioles were ever involved in negotiating about were the Expos. They have done nothing but promote the DC club other than the attempt to enforce a backdoor agreement between Bud and the Lerners.

I have to politely disagree.

I believe that most Nationals fans do not believe there is a fair split of MASN money between the clubs and I know, it's been debated in here, and there are always two sides to a story, and we are not going to solve the battle here.

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The only team the Orioles were ever involved in negotiating about were the Expos. They have done nothing but promote the DC club other than the attempt to enforce a backdoor agreement between Bud and the Lerners.

Not when he said this:

There was no more vocal opponent to baseball?s return to the District than Orioles owner Peter Angelos, who once said, ?There are no baseball fans in Washington, D.C.?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/4/old-orioles-fans-have-adopted-natitude/?page=all

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I have to politely disagree.

I believe that most Nationals fans do not believe there is a fair split of MASN money between the clubs and I know, it's been debated in here, and there are always two sides to a story, and we are not going to solve the battle here.

There were no Nationals. It was a negotiation with MLB whether there could even be one.

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Not when he said this:

There was no more vocal opponent to baseball?s return to the District than Orioles owner Peter Angelos, who once said, ?There are no baseball fans in Washington, D.C.?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/4/old-orioles-fans-have-adopted-natitude/?page=all

I do not dispute his stance in his litigation. It was not a fan friendly statement. You are right.

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Not when he said this:

There was no more vocal opponent to baseball?s return to the District than Orioles owner Peter Angelos, who once said, ?There are no baseball fans in Washington, D.C.?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/4/old-orioles-fans-have-adopted-natitude/?page=all

And I meant after he agree to the deal that brought them into existence. Before that he was their fiercest opponent. I will grant you that.

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I have to politely disagree.

I believe that most Nationals fans do not believe there is a fair split of MASN money between the clubs and I know, it's been debated in here, and there are always two sides to a story, and we are not going to solve the battle here.

I wish that The Angelos family had not screwed up and had brought the AAA club to Harrisburg and that there were never a Nationals to begin with. I have forgiven all in the last four seasons of prosperity.

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There were no Nationals. It was a negotiation with MLB whether there could even be one.

True, but the Nationals started out at 20% owners of MASN and capped at 35%.

Regardless if this is right or wrong, most National fans, feel that MLB screwed them.

Remember, perception is not always what is accurate, but its what people perceived.

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True, but the Nationals started out at 20% owners of MASN and capped at 35%.

Regardless if this is right or wrong, most National fans, feel that MLB screwed them.

Remember, perception is not always what is accurate, but its what people perceived.

MLB owned a team. They were trying to sell it. Desperately at the time. The other 29 Owners would no longer fund the expense of running it. DC bought it. Under those conditions. Whether the Lerners were told that there was a poison pill in the Orioles deal or not is somewhat irrelevant.

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And I meant after he agree to the deal that brought them into existence. Before that he was their fiercest opponent. I will grant you that.

I don't think either owner is too media savvy. I think it was the Wall Street Journal reporter who got his media pass revoked because he wanted to talk to the Lerners about the MASN dispute. Both guys give tons of money away to charities. But seems like a rich guys fight. Maybe even personal now.

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MLB owned a team. They were trying to sell it. Desperately at the time. The other 29 Owners would no longer fund the expense of running it. DC bought it. Under those conditions. Whether the Lerners were told that there was a poison pill in the Orioles deal or not is somewhat irrelevant.

I think also Congress was trying to get rid of the anti trust exemption in baseball.

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I don't think either owner is too media savvy. I think it was the Wall Street Journal reporter who got his media pass revoked because he wanted to talk to the Lerners about the MASN dispute. Both guys give tons of money away to charities. But seems like a rich guys fight. Maybe even personal now.

Could be. Like I have said before. I doubt any of you would enjoy billionaires much.

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I disagree. We are way better than we performed. Our starting pitching let us down straight up. Tillman, Gonzo, Norris and Gausman all underperformed.

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How good do you think our rotation really is?

Tillman is not a #1

Gonzo and Norris are back end rotation starters.

For our starters 2014 was an outlier year. They over performed

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Orioles. By a huge amount. I couldn't care less what the Nats do.

If you can't write an objective response then don't even reply. What's the point in saying 'My team is most disappointing because they are my team'? That's some pre-school logic bro.

The answer is the Nationals by a huge amount and it's not even close. Look at their rotation versus ours. That's a championship rotation.

Also their payroll is much higher than ours.

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