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It's a mess, but it would be fun in a trainwreck way to go back a month or so and collect all the posts of the folks who said the O's were being disingenuous cheapskates for highlighting issues with Gallardo's physical that a better org would have just brushed off.

I'm having issues with the thought that they gave up a pick and $millions for a pitcher they knew was in the gray area between a little hurt and HURT hurt. When they signed him I was very much against it, but thought he'd probably just end up as a mediocre pitcher. Not someone who might have given the team 18 innings of a 7.00 for their $22M. At least it wasn't 3/36 or 44 whatever was thrown around most of the offseason.

Who remembers Jason Schmidt's last contract?

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It's a mess, but it would be fun in a trainwreck way to go back a month or so and collect all the posts of the folks who said the O's were being disingenuous cheapskates for highlighting issues with Gallardo's physical that a better org would have just brushed off.

I'm having issues with the thought that they gave up a pick and $millions for a pitcher they knew was in the gray area between a little hurt and HURT hurt. When they signed him I was very much against it, but thought he'd probably just end up as a mediocre pitcher. Not someone who might have given the team 18 innings of a 7.00 for their $22M. At least it wasn't 3/36 or 44 whatever was thrown around most of the offseason.

Who remembers Jason Schmidt's last contract?

Yeah, mediocre sounds great right about now.

As a previous poster alluded, I can't help but think the O's may have felt pressured into concluding a deal with Gallardo, regardless of concerns over the physical. It would've looked terrible with the alleged Fowler mishandling to simultaneously pull out completely of the Gallardo deal. Right or wrong, we would've gotten lambasted by the national media, which just in general isn't good for business. And that close to the start of the season, there was plenty of pressure from the fan base to address a need that we repeatedly stated was our biggest.

Seems more and more that the contract was signed more on hope than on good judgment. While we're busy hoping, mine is that we can get him right (if that still exists), even if it takes surgery and sitting out this year, so we can at least get some value out of the contract. There are some big ifs there...

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It's a mess, but it would be fun in a trainwreck way to go back a month or so and collect all the posts of the folks who said the O's were being disingenuous cheapskates for highlighting issues with Gallardo's physical that a better org would have just brushed off.

I'm having issues with the thought that they gave up a pick and $millions for a pitcher they knew was in the gray area between a little hurt and HURT hurt. When they signed him I was very much against it, but thought he'd probably just end up as a mediocre pitcher. Not someone who might have given the team 18 innings of a 7.00 for their $22M. At least it wasn't 3/36 or 44 whatever was thrown around most of the offseason.

Who remembers Jason Schmidt's last contract?

Yeah, Ken Rosenthal can just go suck it. The O's doctors were right AGAIN. Too bad we didn't just pull out entirely. I'm 95% sure this is season-ending surgery, and about 70% sure that Gallardo never pitches for us again.

If you had told me before the season that Gonzalez would be cut and Gallardo would go down with a shoulder injury after four starts, I would have said then there is no way that we will contend and we'll probably be a sub-.500 team. I'm struggling for a way to rationalize why that won't be the case now. It's gonna take a miracle performance from the three W's (Wright, Wilson, Worley). Not too likely IMO.

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Yes, this is an unfortunate situation. But, on the bright side it gives those who thrive on O's negativity a lot to complain about.:rolleyes: I am more concerned about how the starting pitchers come out in the first inning and seemingly all have high pitch counts and the O's fall behind quickly. The bp doesn't seem to have that problem. I don't know the routine they follow, if it's different from pitcher to pitcher, but I'm pretty confident of a W when a pitcher has a clean first inning and throws 15 or so pitches.

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Yeah, Ken Rosenthal can just go suck it. The O's doctors were right AGAIN. Too bad we didn't just pull out entirely. I'm 95% sure this is season-ending surgery, and about 70% sure that Gallardo never pitches for us again.

If you had told me before the season that Gonzalez would be cut and Gallardo would go down with a shoulder injury after four starts, I would have said then there is no way that we will contend and we'll probably be a sub-.500 team. I'm struggling for a way to rationalize why that won't be the case now. It's gonna take a miracle performance from the three W's (Wright, Wilson, Worley). Not too likely IMO.

I wonder if AJ Burnett or Mark Buehrle have been playing catch? Hey, Tim Lincecum, how is that arm feeling? Wonder what a Gonzo trade back might look like? Lol. Nope, we are going with Tillman, Ubaldo , Gausman and the double Ws. Oh boy.

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He's done unless that fastball magically gets back into the 89-92 range.

I don't see how he can be kept in the rotation past May with his current stuff. He's not crafty enough to get away with an 87 MPH fastball.

Could be the worst O's signing in years, considering the dollars and draft pick.

Yes, but this was obvious from the beginning. They even knew his shoulder had problems. DD really out did himself with this one coupled with the Kim signing.

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My response is to the release-nics. It's quite possible that he needs more time to build up his arm. If that can happen. I always wanted to keep the number 14 pick. Myself.

I agree. They held the 14th pick in protective custody all off season only to give it up for damaged goods. On the bright side, DD won't be going anywhere to be president. People can see what a failure he is now.

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From that article, here is one scary post game comment from Bud after giving up grand slam and leaving in second inning last night for the Braves with his ERA now 6.75 and 1-3 in 4 starts with Atlanta.

"It's frustrating,"Norris said. " I want to turn this around as quick as I can, because it's still April. I know there's a lot more in the tank."

Man, that comment gave me cold shivers...rough being a Braves fan this year.

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If Gallardo is hurt, the screwed up thing is that they were basically shamed into signing him. The medical staff detected the problem and then they were excoriated by the press. They were put in a position where they almost had to sign him so that other free agents wouldn't just cross the Orioles off their list.

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Well they kind of did, since they renegotiated his deal and got him to take less years after his physical. How often do you see that happen? They were aware that they were taking a risk and I'm sure they didn't want to hurt their perception around the league anymore by backing out of another deal.

So they flushed 22 million dollars and a first round pick to protect there league image

I wonder what the other GM's think about that

laughter around the league?

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Yeah, Ken Rosenthal can just go suck it. The O's doctors were right AGAIN. Too bad we didn't just pull out entirely. I'm 95% sure this is season-ending surgery, and about 70% sure that Gallardo never pitches for us again.

If you had told me before the season that Gonzalez would be cut and Gallardo would go down with a shoulder injury after four starts, I would have said then there is no way that we will contend and we'll probably be a sub-.500 team. I'm struggling for a way to rationalize why that won't be the case now. It's gonna take a miracle performance from the three W's (Wright, Wilson, Worley). Not too likely IMO.

First off, agreed, the Oriole doctors look better and better with each correct evaluation. I think they get raked through the mud because they hurt business for the agents and the MLBPA.

Second - I don't think it'll take miracle performances from the three "W"s. All the Orioles need to compete in the AL East is below average starting pitching. That's it.

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