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Good news. Lineup looks a lot better. I'm assuming it's a 1-2 of Fowler and Machado and Kim takes over the #2 spot once he gets the hang of things. I think Machado eventually hits 3rd, Davis 4th, Jones 5th.

That is where I would like it to end up, assuming that Kim can handle the bat against ML pitching.

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If Gallardo doesn't end up being signed by the O's' date=' does that mean the Cubs get the O's 14th pick? Or it Fowler passes his physical before Gallardo does, do the Cubs end up with the higher pick?[/quote']

No, the pick given up and pick received aren't the same.

We lose our highest pick for the first guy we sign and our second highest pick for the second guy we sign. Those picks don't go to the teams the players came from, they just cease to exist.

Meanwhile, the teams that lose free agents get comp picks after the first round and before the second round.

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Good news. Lineup looks a lot better. I'm assuming it's a 1-2 of Fowler and Machado and Kim takes over the #2 spot once he gets the hang of things. I think Machado eventually hits 3rd, Davis 4th, Jones 5th.
That is where I would like it to end up, assuming that Kim can handle the bat against ML pitching.

So that would yield:

Fowler (S)

Kim (L)

Machado ®

Davis (L)

Jones ®

Trumbo ® / Wieters (S)

Wieters (S) / Trumbo ®

Schoop ®

Hardy ®

I honestly sort of like Kim farther down. If Fowler gets on base to lead off, I love the power that is coming up with the next three guys behind him. I can see a decent number of quick 2-0 leads in the first.

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If Gallardo doesn't end up being signed by the O's' date=' does that mean the Cubs get the O's 14th pick? Or it Fowler passes his physical before Gallardo does, do the Cubs end up with the higher pick?[/quote']

Better to give the higher pick to the NL rather than the AL? :noidea:

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I agree that there's something the O's want more certainty about before committing $35 mm. In that sense, there's "something to worry about." But it could be that they are just bring extra careful, rather than seeing something that's really got them on the fence. I guess we'll find out tomorrow.

That's all I'm saying.
Somebody earlier in the thread (or another one) posted the timeline for Kim's physical and it did take place over multiple days, with another follow-up, I believe. It may be the Orioles' normal procedure now. It makes sense that there's just increased scrutiny now because everybody wants to know when he's going to show up for Spring Training.

I'm no medical expert, but I don't think it's uncommon to do tests that involve some kind of follow up. They probably gave his shoulder the normal looking over, it seemed fine, and then later they saw something on the MRI that gave them pause. They probably want to do some additional looking over with increased attention to his shoulder now that they know what warning signs they should be looking for.

My question for you Sir_Loin, is what do the "medicals" that teams request ahead of the contract look like? Do those not include a MRI? Why would a new MRI be an issue now? At the risk of answering my own question, do the requested medicals have the old MRIs and the issue is that the new MRI looks different from the old ones?

This is really where I'm at. Based on information available and Loin's to-date very reliable relaying of info, I think it could be something as simple as "what's that? Not 100% sure. It could be nothing, it has a small chance of being something. Let's just be sure." Rather than a true deal-breaker. If that were the case, I think we would hear it before anything cryptic.

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My lineup. And players just reported today... yesterday. If Kim seems viable at least, Buck will try to protect him at first. Like he did Manny. Like he did Schoop. Keep them (Kim) down in the order to get their feet wet. So early lineup.

Fowler

Machado

Jones

Davis

Wieters or Trumbo

Wieters or Trumbo

Schoop

Hardy

Kim

Maybe even switch Hardy and Kim at the very first. Protecting him as much as possible.

If Kim is really up to ML pitching, by May or June hopefully, I'd try this lineup.

Fowler

Kim

Machado

Jones

Davis

W or T

T or W

Schoop

Hardy

Murderer's Row. If Dan's evil plans come to fruition.

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My lineup. And players just reported today... yesterday. If Kim seems viable at least, Buck will try to protect him at first. Like he did Manny. Like he did Schoop. Keep them (Kim) down in the order to get their feet wet. So early lineup.

Fowler

Machado

Jones

Davis

Wieters or Trumbo

Wieters or Trumbo

Schoop

Hardy

Kim

Maybe even switch Hardy and Kim at the very first. Protecting him as much as possible.

If Kim is really up to ML pitching, by May or June hopefully, I'd try this lineup.

Fowler

Kim

Machado

Jones

Davis

W or T

T or W

Schoop

Hardy

Murderer's Row. If Dan's evil plans come to fruition.

On the bolded, I think Kim bats 8 with Hardy at 9 just to keep handedness alternating. Probably Trumbo - Wieters following Davis as well.

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So that would yield:

Fowler (S)

Kim (L)

Machado ®

Davis (L)

Jones ®

Trumbo ® / Wieters (S)

Wieters (S) / Trumbo ®

Schoop ®

Hardy ®

I honestly sort of like Kim farther down. If Fowler gets on base to lead off, I love the power that is coming up with the next three guys behind him. I can see a decent number of quick 2-0 leads in the first.

I do too. Having Fowler-Machado-Jones-Davis-Trumbo one through five is my ideal situation. Kim batting 8th (or 9th) makes him a very good lineup turner-over. Again provided he can give you something like .280/.350/.400.

If Kim is really up to ML pitching, by May or June hopefully, I'd try this lineup.

Fowler

Kim

Machado

Jones

Davis

W or T

T or W

Schoop

Hardy

Murderer's Row. If Dan's evil plans come to fruition.

Don't like Davis batting 5th. Would rather bat Jones 5th. Which brings me back to my earlier point, we don't have to bat Kim 2nd even if he does well.

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My lineup. And players just reported today... yesterday. If Kim seems viable at least, Buck will try to protect him at first. Like he did Manny. Like he did Schoop. Keep them (Kim) down in the order to get their feet wet. So early lineup.

Fowler

Machado

Jones

Davis

Wieters or Trumbo

Wieters or Trumbo

Schoop

Hardy

Kim

Maybe even switch Hardy and Kim at the very first. Protecting him as much as possible.

If Kim is really up to ML pitching, by May or June hopefully, I'd try this lineup.

Fowler

Kim

Machado

Jones

Davis

W or T

T or W

Schoop

Hardy

Murderer's Row. If Dan's evil plans come to fruition.

I agree with the second lineup...if Kim can hit .270-280 and OBP 320 + the Orioled will better. I like the idea of Manny at 3 and I think I'd prefer Davis at 4 and Jones at 5. They are both free swingers but Davis walks more.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dexter Fowler had pretty good range last year for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cubs?src=hash">#Cubs</a>. Fowler & Adam Jones should cover good ground together <a href="https://t.co/yqOIjNbG9k">pic.twitter.com/yqOIjNbG9k</a></p>— Daren Willman (@darenw) <a href="

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