Gallardo - Roch: deal is DONE (signed)

[25 Nuggets]

Which guys? Hard to say that about Fowler. Last three seasons: 2.0, 1.8, 2.2 rWAR and 2.2, 1.4 and 3.1 fWAR. At $7MM per win, that's easily $15MM per. Good chance he'll be worth more based on defense moving to COF (considering his offensive profile plays there still).

He meant Heyward and Price were overpaid, I believe.

I agree I'm very happy with Fowler's price, $11 mil for a 2-win player. I thought we were going to get negative value from RF.

[xian4]

Read a couple of reports stating that the problem area is the shoulder, nothing official, just speculation.

[weams]

Read a couple of reports stating that the problem area is the shoulder, nothing official, just speculation.

That is what I have seen as well.

[O's are Legends]

At the end of the day The Orioles docs, for better or worse, have been right more then they have been wrong in this regard.

The fact we haven't seen some massive proclamation and denial from Gallardo's camp (a'la Balfour) tells me that he doesn't necessarily doubt whatever it is came up.

Well said, should be interesting to hear what new info comes out from the additional testing.

[weams]

Sunspot.com

The Orioles have received the results of the diagnostic tests on right-hander Yovani Gallardo’s right shoulder and were still evaluating them late Tuesday night.

[weams]

http://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2016/02/lets-get-physical-with-orioles.html

[Going Underground]

From the Sun:

The sense that I’ve gotten is that the Orioles are not only doing their due diligence by ordering a second round of tests, but are being super cautious because of the draft-pick compensation tied to Gallardo. If the Orioles did not have to give up a draft pick to sign him, it might not be a major issue.

This situation feels a little different. Gallardo has no history of trouble with his shoulder. The ACL surgery Gallardo had in 2008 – the injury cost him most of the season – is his only significant injury. He has never missed time with any arm issues.

But again, if the Orioles were hesitant to forfeit a draft pick initially, it’s understandable that they would get jittery about a perceived arm issue.

It is commonplace to find some wear and tear on any pitcher’s arm. In fact, it’s rare to see a completely clean MRI on a pitcher’s shoulder, because there is a natural breakdown there over time.

http://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2016/02/lets-get-physical-with-orioles.html

[waroriole]

http://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2016/02/lets-get-physical-with-orioles.html

That is a lot of good decisions made

[Rene88]

From the Sun:

The sense that I’ve gotten is that the Orioles are not only doing their due diligence by ordering a second round of tests, but are being super cautious because of the draft-pick compensation tied to Gallardo. If the Orioles did not have to give up a draft pick to sign him, it might not be a major issue.

This situation feels a little different. Gallardo has no history of trouble with his shoulder. The ACL surgery Gallardo had in 2008 – the injury cost him most of the season – is his only significant injury. He has never missed time with any arm issues.

But again, if the Orioles were hesitant to forfeit a draft pick initially, it’s understandable that they would get jittery about a perceived arm issue.

It is commonplace to find some wear and tear on any pitcher’s arm. In fact, it’s rare to see a completely clean MRI on a pitcher’s shoulder, because there is a natural breakdown there over time.

http://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2016/02/lets-get-physical-with-orioles.html

Thanks Grimes. I think if this is becoming an increasingly used method to negotiate by the club, they are entering dangerous waters. That will really start to deter other potential free agents. Having said that, doesn't seem to be deterring yet.

[Obando]

I'm holding out hope that the Gallardo situation gets resolved today, one way or the other. In my mind, I had already convinced myself that Gallardo was a done deal, so I'll be disappointed if the deal falls through. But if Sir Loin's contact saying there's nothing to worry about is any indication, not to mention Roch's gut feeling that the deal gets finalized while on the radio last night, I feel like it will happen. Sounds like this was more about the O's docs being extra cautious, especially with the loss of a draft pick involved, as opposed to a serious concern that could sabotage the deal. Sir Loin, if you have an update for us, please chime in.

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[Dark Helmet]

I'm not saying the Orioles are wrong. But this is why it's important to develop SP. Veteran pitchers are going to have wear and tear on their arms. It's very well likely the Orioles may have been interested in Kazmir/Fister/Latos over sacrificing a pick for Gallardo. Maybe they wanted nothing to do with the Orioles and their physical. If they Gallardo deal falls through, his chances of pitching before June is almost slim to none, atleast for a team who has to surrender a pick. And he won't be getting anywhere close to what the Orioles offered. Again, the Orioles are doing what they need to do. But I think it will make FA (especially pitchers) leary of negotiating with the Orioles.

[fearthenoodle]

I'm holding out hope that the Gallardo situation gets resolved today, one way or the other. In my mind, I had already convinced myself that Gallardo was a done deal, so I'll be disappointed if the deal falls through. But if Sir Loin's contact saying there's nothing to worry about is any indication, not to mention Roch's gut feeling that the deal gets finalized while on the radio last night, I feel like it will happen. Sounds like this was more about the O's docs being extra cautious, especially with the loss of a draft pick involved, as opposed to a serious concern that could sabotage the deal. Sir Loin, if you have an update for us, please chime in.

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Sir_Loin has been on point about almost everything Gallardo/Fowler-related, that I almost trust him as much as anyone in the media. I do think it will be resolved today- they have the additional test results and so all that is left is to make a decision.

[fearthenoodle]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: O's will not finish the Yovani Gallardo deal if they come to believe a breakdown is likely in the middle of the 3-year contract.</p>— Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) <a href="

">February 24, 2016</a></blockquote>

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[Dark Helmet]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: O's will not finish the Yovani Gallardo deal if they come to believe a breakdown is likely in the middle of the 3-year contract.</p>— Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) <a href="

">February 24, 2016</a></blockquote>

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Guys like Olney and Rosenthal get paid for these groundbreaking reports?

[MurphDogg]

Sources: O's will not finish the Yovani Gallardo deal if they come to believe a breakdown is likely in the middle of the 3-year contract.? Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) February 24, 2016

Yep. And the Orioles expect the ground to get wet if it rains. Dynamite scoop there by Buster.