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For purposes of speculation, a couple attractive names (albeit of the two month rental variety) are CJ Wilson and Jeremy Hellickson. Wilson is not nearly the pitcher he was several years ago, so don't get hung up on the name.

Neither one is a huge difference maker, but could certainly add stability to our rotation.

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He did well with Miller and Norris. The others are meh to bad at best. I would think that Sisco, Yaz, Gunkel and Mancini are not going to be traded.

Miller produced for us but was almost definitely not the difference between us making or missing the postseason in 2014.

Norris on the other hand was horrible when he came over in 2013, pretty good in 2014, and beyond horrible in 2015. I don't think he did well with that one and we gave up Hader, who would probably be our no. 1 overall prospect right now.

KRod for Delmonico was probably the least damaging of his recent deadline deals.

Regarding Yaz and Gunkel, these guys are not even top ten prospects in our system so for what reason would we try to avoid including them in a package if another team wanted them?

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Not sure how Norris fits into your "well" category and not your "meh at best" category.

Great 2014 did that. I think his 2015 was garbo, and his 2013 wasn't that good. Miller was a piece that I think we had to trade for, because did you really want Matusz going in late in games instead of Miller. I think that was the thought process behind that move.

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Miller produced for us but was almost definitely not the difference between us making or missing the postseason in 2014.

Norris on the other hand was horrible when he came over in 2013, pretty good in 2014, and beyond horrible in 2015. I don't think he did well with that one and we gave up Hader, who would probably be our no. 1 overall prospect right now.

KRod for Delmonico was probably the least damaging of his recent deadline deals.

I think Miller bumped the O's WS chances by a few percentage points all by himself.

I also think that if the Tigers had traded for them they beat the O's in the first round.

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Great 2014 did that. I think his 2015 was garbo, and his 2013 wasn't that good. Miller was a piece that I think we had to trade for, because did you really want Matusz going in late in games instead of Miller. I think that was the thought process behind that move.

How was his 2014 great?

The O's basically used six starters that year and five of them performed at basically the same level.

None of them were great.

You could make a case that Norris was the fifth most effective starter they had in 2014.

In fact I made that case.

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Miller produced for us but was almost definitely not the difference between us making or missing the postseason in 2014.

Agree, but the point of that deal was to make us more ferocious in October and he did.

I think he's the type of player Dan would prefer to acquire, if the rotation can be cromulent enough to keep our postseason odds high in the next 6 weeks.

If there are too many dumpster fires, then the trade resources for another bullpen ace may have to be purposed to rotation fodder to help us get there.

We stay hot and the Yankees fade, we'll actually match up well to be buying what they're selling.

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Agree, but the point of that deal was to make us more ferocious in October and he did.

I think he's the type of player Dan would prefer to acquire, if the rotation can be cromulent enough to keep our postseason odds high in the next 6 weeks.

If there are too many dumpster fires, then the trade resources for another bullpen ace may have to be purposed to rotation fodder to help us get there.

We stay hot and the Yankees fade, we'll actually match up well to be buying what they're selling.

Nats have already been linked to them.

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I think Miller bumped the O's WS chances by a few percentage points all by himself.

I also think that if the Tigers had traded for them they beat the O's in the first round.

I agree. He would have gone to the Tigers and we likely lose. Miller's deal is the only one of The in season deals that I liked.

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Because of course they do. Norris helped. Who would you rather have that year as a starter? Norris or Ubaldo for a full year?

Gausman for the full season.

Warm body for whatever starting innings Gausman had.

And I never said he didn't help. I said he wasn't great.

He was bad then he was decent then he was horrendous.

That wasn't worth what they paid him and what they gave up for him.

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Agree, but the point of that deal was to make us more ferocious in October and he did.

I think he's the type of player Dan would prefer to acquire, if the rotation can be cromulent enough to keep our postseason odds high in the next 6 weeks.

If there are too many dumpster fires, then the trade resources for another bullpen ace may have to be purposed to rotation fodder to help us get there.

We stay hot and the Yankees fade, we'll actually match up well to be buying what they're selling.

That's just not what we need. We have so much depth in the bullpen between Baltimore and Norfolk.

SP help is not coming from the minors this year. We need to trade for a starter. Doesn't have to be an ace, but we need someone to eat innings and not get shelled.

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