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Just now, DrungoHazewood said:

But what are the odds he stays at or near career highs in performance for the next four years?  His career OPS is .775, and most players decline through their 30s.  A DH with a .725 or .750 OPS is replacement level, the kind of guy you can easily acquire for 1/5.

Yep, that's the $52 million question.  I think the move to Camden Yards is a factor in his performance and that he will have an OPS north of .775 if he spends the next four seasons there.

That said, his HR splits were pretty even last season (25 to 22).

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2 hours ago, wildbillhiccup said:

Signing Trumbo to a 4 year deal would be a really bad move, Four years shouldn't even be on the table anymore after the Encarnacion deal. I'm not even sure I"m comfortable with a 3 year deal. Not for a glorified DH. 

You will have lots to complain about then. Unless someone swoops in like Seattle did on Cruz. 

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7 hours ago, esmd said:

If I'm DD I'm lowering my offer to Trumbo.  4/44 or maybe 4/48.  Final offer, take it or leave it.  And it wouldn't upset me if he left it, because I'd just sign Alvarez to split time at DH with Mancini.  Mancini can also spell Davis at 1B.  Then they need to find that magical RFer.

I'm thinking more like 2/24 with an option. Why bid against yourself? Rockies and who else are even in on him?

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5 hours ago, Redskins Rick said:

 

Buck said, he was shocked after meeting Trumbo and finding out what a student of the game he is, always watching and learning.

 

Probably shocked because his studiousness hasn't translated into watching more pitches or learning a better approach to playing RF.

 

But I kid.  If they do resign him, maybe he'll show a little more patience at the plate since he established himself as feared slugger.  I only resign him if he's our DH option, period.  I also like saving the money by going with an Alvarez/Mancini platoon.  Between the two, what sort of numbers do they combine for?  30+ HR's? 80+ RBIs?  Too many K's?

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2 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

That's before the EE deal. Texas, Oakland, even Toronto could be in on him now. Especially if his price has dropped.

Encarnation passed up. 4/80 with a fifth year 20 option. Before he became a free agent. 

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I just don't get why we would sign Trumbo and block Mancini (one of our only legitimate prospects) for the next 3 - 4 years. We need a "position" player. More specifically an OF. Ideally one with power and/or a high OB%/speed. Short of exploring options via trade, I think Saunders and Pagan are our best options. In hindsight,we really should have made a run at Desmond. 

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16 hours ago, 25 Nuggets said:

...on the flip side, Cleveland is not only getting one of the best hitters in the American League in Encarnacion, but also the return of former MVP candidate Michael Brantley.  They are probably the best offense in the AL -- they were second in runs scored last season without EE and Brantley, though a full 100 runs worse than Boston.  On paper, it already looks like a Boston-Cleveland ALCS with a sizeable gap in talent between them and the rest of their divisions.  The winner of the AL West would be the 3rd seed and the likes of Baltimore (us), New York, Detroit, and the West runners up will fight for the Wild Card.

The Indians somehow made and nearly won the World Series without the help of Carlos Carrasco, Danny Salazar, Yan Gomes and Michael Brantley, all out hurt in all or most of the playoffs.  They have the potential to be scary good next year, maybe the best team in baseball with the addition of Encarnacion.

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5 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

I just don't get why we would sign Trumbo and block Mancini (one of our only legitimate prospects) for the next 3 - 4 years. We need a "position" player. More specifically an OF. Ideally one with power and/or a high OB%/speed. Short of exploring options via trade, I think Saunders and Pagan are our best options. In hindsight,we really should have made a run at Desmond. 

You don't think Buck will use Trumbo in the outfield?

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19 hours ago, 25 Nuggets said:

Well, presuming 4/50 then, that's 12.5 mil a season.  If Trumbo performs as a 2-win DH like Drungo pointed out, that's $6.25 mil a win and he earns the contract.

He's been a 2 win player 3 times out of 6, and that was in his 20s. He's been worth a combined 2 wins in the last 3. That's not a safe bet. If you were paying him 4/50 for the last 4 seasons, he was worth about 30... and that's if you're even on board with paying market prices for sub 2 win players. I don't expect him to be better as he gets older.

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