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1 hour ago, weams said:

He is and he has been. Just because some metrics may show it different, he still is the better player in the 2010's. By several measures. 

McCutchen has been considerably better than Jones in the 2010's.    It's not really that close.  McCutchen was NL MVP, finished 3rd twice, finished 5th once.     Jones has finished 6th, 13th and 14th in the AL.    Jones has hit .279/.318/.470 this decade, McCutchen .293/.383/.489.    

You can debate who's the better player now, but McCutchen's been the better player.

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3 hours ago, weams said:

He is and he has been. Just because some metrics may show it different, he still is the better player in the 2010's. By several measures. 

Name them. McCutchen has been a far, far better player than Jones in the 2010s. This is a completely absurd and unfounded "opinion".

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26 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

You forgot the most important metric that says Jones is better.     Team uniform.    With all due respect to Weams is there any doubt which way he'd be arguing this if McCutchen was an Oriole and Jones a Pirate?

Put them both on the Orioles and I'll tell you Jones is better. And we are not talking metrics. 

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14 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Lineup versatility?    You crack me up sometimes.       McCutchen batted 1st in 236 games and batted 3rd in 833 games.    He's batted 2nd in 80 games.

Are you seriously giving Adam Jones an edge for batting in spots 4-9 a lot more than McCutchen?    LOL

 

Adam Jones 162 game average per baseball reference  26 homers.  .460 slugging   Lifetime OPS+ 108

McCutchen 162 game average   24 homers, .487 slugging   Lifetime OPS +  138

 

Don't embarrass yourself any further.   Please!

Completely absurd homerism and worship of the home run is the only explanation, which I guess should have been expected. McCutchen has been head and shoulders better, it's so clear that it can be called a fact.

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2 hours ago, weams said:

Power. Real defense. Lineup versatility. Arm. 

I'll grant Jones a slight advantage in power, defense and arm.  What in the world is "lineup versatility?" You play where the manager puts you.   I'd take McCutchen over Jones at any spot in the order.   He's been the much better hitter overall.

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4 hours ago, Babypowder said:

Completely absurd homerism and worship of the home run is the only explanation, which I guess should have been expected. McCutchen has been head and shoulders better, it's so clear that it can be called a fact.

Actually have some things going on right now and no longer wish to defend my personal choice. No ignoring anyone. 

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