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57 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

The thing is they should extend him before the big season. They won't and it will cost them dearly 

If he has a good year they might regret it, but I don't think he's such a sure thing that it's worth the gamble.   His upside is probably 2 WAR (0.6 rWAR, 0.9 fWAR last year).    What kind of extension are you suggesting?

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On 2/20/2017 at 10:50 AM, Frobby said:

If he has a good year they might regret it, but I don't think he's such a sure thing that it's worth the gamble.   His upside is probably 2 WAR (0.6 rWAR, 0.9 fWAR last year).    What kind of extension are you suggesting?

First, I'm not big on WAR as I think it a flawed stat.

if and it's certainly an If Kim can hit lefties to something like .260-.265 with a  .330 OBP he represents a skill that the Orioles are lacking big time.

I would think a 3 year extension at 4-5 per.

 

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Wow, can't believe all this talk about extending Kim

His problem and why Buck didn't like playing him is not his hitting, but that he is a terrible OF'er. He has way below average speed and arm

So basically you have a DH with no power. Not a guy that you extend, not a guy that is more than a part time player.

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I know Kim is a free agent, in part because Cot's page on his contract specifically has a bullet saying he may become a free agent after 2017.

Is he only a FA because of that contract provision? 

The compare that confuses it for me is Seung-Hwan Oh of the Cardinals.  He also signed a two-year deal.  His contract description does not have the Kim FA bullet point, and their Cardinals long term grid is silent on his 2018 status.

If we had not given that provision, would we have been able to retain his rights through a 3rd year of pre-arb club control, or through arbitration?

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2 hours ago, webbrick2010 said:

Wow, can't believe all this talk about extending Kim

His problem and why Buck didn't like playing him is not his hitting, but that he is a terrible OF'er. He has way below average speed and arm

So basically you have a DH with no power. Not a guy that you extend, not a guy that is more than a part time player.

No power?  We shall see about that.  

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the tough part is his inability to be optioned down to Norfolk. He does himself no favors in that imho. He needs work, and will probably remain the "unpolished" player we see now. He has a chance to make an impression, and I like the guy, but I fear he's gotta turn some heads soon.

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5 minutes ago, big_sparxx said:

the tough part is his inability to be optioned down to Norfolk. He does himself no favors in that imho. He needs work, and will probably remain the "unpolished" player we see now. He has a chance to make an impression, and I like the guy, but I fear he's gotta turn some heads soon.

Yea, he obviously really hurt himself by not agreeing to being buried at Norfolk last year. 

What exactly do you think he can work on at Norfolk? 

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8 hours ago, webbrick2010 said:

Wow, can't believe all this talk about extending Kim

His problem and why Buck didn't like playing him is not his hitting, but that he is a terrible OF'er. He has way below average speed and arm

So basically you have a DH with no power. Not a guy that you extend, not a guy that is more than a part time player.

I think you are wrong about Kim.

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