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17 minutes ago, weams said:

Yep. And then he does not get paid. 

But he gets paid a minor league salary unless he's on the major league roster, is my understanding.    We're not paying him $2 mm to be available at Norfolk.   So, I can certainly see him opting out if he sees he won't be on the OD roster here and there appears to be a good opportunity elsewhere.   

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But he gets paid a minor league salary unless he's on the major league roster, is my understanding.    We're not paying him $2 mm to be available at Norfolk.   So, I can certainly see him opting out if he sees he won't be on the OD roster here and there appears to be a good opportunity elsewhere.   

Sure. If there is. 

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3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

But he gets paid a minor league salary unless he's on the major league roster, is my understanding.    We're not paying him $2 mm to be available at Norfolk.   So, I can certainly see him opting out if he sees he won't be on the OD roster here and there appears to be a good opportunity elsewhere.   

and we're platooning with Rickard, Smith Gentry and Kim.

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2 minutes ago, weams said:

What? You have to be kidding me. They are all pretty similar. All of them. I hope you are not talking about that team speed stuff.

well that's one thing. I'm failing to see your logic though. More expensive less tools. over less expensive more tools. Can you compare any of them with Bourn (again we don't know about Gentry) defensively?

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well that's one thing. I'm failing to see your logic though. More expensive less tools. over less expensive more tools. Can you compare any of them with Bourn (again we don't know about Gentry) defensively?

Kim, Smith? They are they are there for the OBP. Not the d. 

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We know you love homers but what have you got against team speed?   It usually equates to extra bases on the base paths and better defense in the outfield.

great point. we've been pathetic in that dept. Who wouldn't mind a little more hit and run? Also puts to bed those silly AJ at leadoff ideas.

Also a point to note... everyone on the team has been serious on improving the team d in the OF. Bourn does that at least.

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1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

We know you love homers but what have you got against team speed?   It usually equates to extra bases on the base paths and better defense in the outfield.

Sure. If that were the case, I would probably be all for Bourn making it then. Or Smith. But we both know that is not the choice. I assume that Bourn make the team. Along with Kim and Smith. And improves the team speed and the defense by doing so. 

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great point. we've been pathetic in that dept. Who wouldn't mind a little more hit and run? Also puts to bed those silly AJ at leadoff ideas.

Also a point to note... everyone on the team has been serious on improving the team d in the OF. Bourn does that at least.

Earl had a thing against fleas... But sure. I am all for improved defense.  Bourn is no more of a leadoff guy than Adam unfortunately. 

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14 minutes ago, big_sparxx said:

great point. we've been pathetic in that dept. Who wouldn't mind a little more hit and run? Also puts to bed those silly AJ at leadoff ideas.

Also a point to note... everyone on the team has been serious on improving the team d in the OF. Bourn does that at least.

This team has a lot of swing and miss to be using the hit and run.

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28 minutes ago, weams said:

Earl had a thing against fleas... But sure. I am all for improved defense.  Bourn is no more of a leadoff guy than Adam unfortunately. 

I'll take the way Weaver actually used his roster vs. one random remark he made about fleas.   In the years he managed, overall the O's were slightly below average in stolen bases.    He had six teams that finished in the top 5 in the AL in SB, and of course his teams were usually excellent defensively.     Under Buck, the O's have never finished higher than 10th in SB, and have been dead last for three consecutive years.    He definitely has used speed far less than Earl did.    Of course, the ballparks and his team's strengths dictate that.   

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2 hours ago, RZNJ said:

We know you love homers but what have you got against team speed?   It usually equates to extra bases on the base paths and better defense in the outfield.

 

2 hours ago, big_sparxx said:

great point. we've been pathetic in that dept. Who wouldn't mind a little more hit and run? Also puts to bed those silly AJ at leadoff ideas.

Also a point to note... everyone on the team has been serious on improving the team d in the OF. Bourn does that at least.

 

Running into outs when our big hairy guys make them RISP on 1B.

 

Only posted 10% for the joke.

Team speed, [expletive deleted]! Ya get [expletive deleted] [expletive deleted] little fleas on da [expletive deleted] bases, gettin' picked off, tryin' ta steal, gettin' thrown out, takin' runs away from ya. Ya get dem big [expletive deleteds] dat can hit the [expletive deleted] ball out da ballpark and ya can't make any [expletive deleted]  mistakes.

 

 

Is our team these days.

 

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