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We knew it all along. But.

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  • The Blue Jays are conducting an internal investigation after six minor league prospects all tested positive for PEDs within the last week, Sportsnet.ca’s Shi Davidi reports.  Thirteen Jays prospects have now been hit with PED test-related violations within the last two years, a stunning increase for an organization that saw just 18 players fail tests from 2005-15.  “This situation is very disappointing and disturbing to the organization; disappointing that the players made these choices, but more so disturbing that some failure of our environment allowed this to happen,” Jays GM Ross Atkins said.  “It is our responsibility to create an environment and culture where our players know that PED use is not condoned, and to give them resources and education to ensure that they do not make these decisions.”
 

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No wonder they have become the Orioles rival. 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-conducting-investigation-spike-positive-drug-tests/

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18 minutes ago, murph said:

Speaking of PED's, Joe Morgan wrote a letter to the HOF voters, Ken Rosenthal posted the text of the letter: 

Putting it here, because I am guessing this is on here somewhere already and I just missed it. 

Passan is turning in a blank ballot to protest the Morgan letter.

I wish Fire Joe Morgan was still a thing.

 

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17 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Passan is turning in a blank ballot to protest the Morgan letter.

I wish Fire Joe Morgan was still a thing.

 

Seems silly for Passan to turn in a blank ballot.   Is Morgan not entitled to express his views?    I personally wrestle with this issue.   If we had perfect knowledge of who did and didn’t use, I’d probably favor banning the users, depending on just how prevalent use really was.    But instead we’re in this murky gray zone where some guys were proven users, other guys are heavily suspected (maybe including some who didn’t in fact use), and there are undoubtedly others who aren’t strongly suspected but in fact did use, and where estimates vary wildly about how prevalent use really was with nobody really knowing the answer to any reasonable degree of accuracy.    It makes for a very confusing landscape in which to make decisions.

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3 hours ago, Frobby said:

Seems silly for Passan to turn in a blank ballot.   Is Morgan not entitled to express his views?    I personally wrestle with this issue.   If we had perfect knowledge of who did and didn’t use, I’d probably favor banning the users, depending on just how prevalent use really was.    But instead we’re in this murky gray zone where some guys were proven users, other guys are heavily suspected (maybe including some who didn’t in fact use), and there are undoubtedly others who aren’t strongly suspected but in fact did use, and where estimates vary wildly about how prevalent use really was with nobody really knowing the answer to any reasonable degree of accuracy.    It makes for a very confusing landscape in which to make decisions.

https://sports.yahoo.com/giving-hall-fame-vote-joe-morgans-letter-144738128.html

He thinks the Hall was connected to the letter.

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