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2 minutes ago, weams said:

Oh really? I think the Orioles could go to the Bronx and win one. 

Ha!  Orioles maybe.  Seattle or Oakland.....not so much.  Esp. Oakland.  Of course, everybody has a better chance than the Twins would of winning a game in New York. 

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5 minutes ago, JR Oriole said:

Ha!  Orioles maybe.  Seattle or Oakland.....not so much.  Esp. Oakland.  Of course, everybody has a better chance than the Twins would of winning a game in New York. 

Depends if they try trotting out Severino again. 

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Depends if they try trotting out Severino again. 

It feels like it doesn't matter once the bright October lights shine in the Bronx.  The Twins are one thing, because their .274 winning percentage against the Yankees over the last 17 years proves they can't beat them no matter where and when the games are played.  But even the world champion Astros seemed unable to handle the Bronx last October, winning the ALCS simply because they got to play 4 games in Houston instead of NY. 

I guess in a one game playoff anything can theoretically happen, but Yankee Stadium is a very intimidating environment for a young team to overcome in the playoffs. 

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Just now, JR Oriole said:

It feels like it doesn't matter once the bright October lights shine in the Bronx.  The Twins are one thing, because their .274 winning percentage against the Yankees over the last 17 years proves they can't beat them no matter where and when the games are played.  But even the world champion Astros seemed unable to handle the Bronx last October, winning the ALCS simply because they got to play 4 games in Houston instead of NY. 

I guess in a one game playoff anything can theoretically happen, but Yankee Stadium is a very intimidating environment for a young team to overcome in the playoffs. 

You are too starglazed. The mystique is just money. 

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12 minutes ago, weams said:

You are too starglazed. The mystique is just money. 

So that money works in New York but in Houston last year where the Yankees went 0 and 4 in the ALCS, the money doesn't work there?  Shouldn't money work everywhere?

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4 minutes ago, JR Oriole said:

So that money works in New York but in Houston last year where the Yankees went 0 and 4 in the ALCS, the money doesn't work there?  Shouldn't money work everywhere?

I assume all team have a home field advantage. 

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1 hour ago, JR Oriole said:

While they will be a WC, I don't see Seattle or Oakland having the chops to go into NY and win a one game playoff.  Seattle maybe, but Oakland no way.  I don't even know how the As are over .500.  So I think we will see NY and Houston in the divisional round. 

Let's hope whatever the A's did/are doing is something we can do in 2 or 3 years.

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14 minutes ago, weams said:

I assume all team have a home field advantage. 

I agree.  But the Yankees did go 6-0 in the playoffs at home last year.  And 1-6 on the road.  Small sample size perhaps, but I don't think home field should mean that much. 

Houston went 2-2 in Dodger Stadium in the World Series last year, including winning Game 7 there.  Dodgers have a ton of money also.  You may not think that there is anything tougher about winning in Yankee Stadium in October than in any other road venue, but it certainly feels that way to me as a pure observer. 

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5 minutes ago, JR Oriole said:

I agree.  But the Yankees did go 6-0 in the playoffs at home last year.  And 1-6 on the road.  Small sample size perhaps, but I don't think home field should mean that much. 

Houston went 2-2 in Dodger Stadium in the World Series last year, including winning Game 7 there.  Dodgers have a ton of money also.  You may not think that there is anything tougher about winning in Yankee Stadium in October than in any other road venue, but it certainly feels that way to me as a pure observer. 

I just do not buy the mystique any more. 

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6 minutes ago, weams said:

I just do not buy the mystique any more. 

And actually, it doesn't matter what you and I think bc we are just fans.  The real question is whether opposing teams buy it and whether it affects them in any way.

I don't think people fully grasp the ridiculousness of the Twins-Yankees run over the last 17 years.  Minnesota is 31-82 (.274) against NY....a 113 game sample which doesn't even count 2-13 in the playoffs.  31-82 versus being above .500 in those same 17 years against the rest of the majors.  Even better.....in the years the Twins were actually an above .500 team, they went 17-49 against NY....a .258 winning percentage! 

So yes the Twins have a distinct monetary disadvantage to the Yankees.....but the stats above seem to indicate it is much more than that.  They are apparently full buyers into the mystique of the pinstripes!

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1 hour ago, JR Oriole said:

While they will be a WC, I don't see Seattle or Oakland having the chops to go into NY and win a one game playoff.  Seattle maybe, but Oakland no way.  I don't even know how the As are over .500.  So I think we will see NY and Houston in the divisional round. 

What are chops?  It's one game.  Anything can happen.  James Paxton is as good as any pitcher the Yankees could throw in that game.

And wouldn't the wild card winner play Boston?  I think they got rid of the rule that you can't play in division in the LDS.

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What are chops?  It's one game.  Anything can happen.  James Paxton is as good as any pitcher the Yankees could throw in that game.

And wouldn't the wild card winner play Boston?  I think they got rid of the rule that you can't play in division in the LDS.

Sick Beat.

 

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2 minutes ago, JR Oriole said:

And actually, it doesn't matter what you and I think bc we are just fans.  The real question is whether opposing teams buy it and whether it affects them in any way.

I don't think people fully grasp the ridiculousness of the Twins-Yankees run over the last 17 years.  Minnesota is 31-82 (.274) against NY....a 113 game sample which doesn't even count 2-13 in the playoffs.  31-82 versus being above .500 in those same 17 years against the rest of the majors.  Even better.....in the years the Twins were actually an above .500 team, they went 17-49 against NY....a .258 winning percentage! 

So yes the Twins have a distinct monetary disadvantage to the Yankees.....but the stats above seem to indicate it is much more than that.  They are apparently full buyers into the mystique of the pinstripes!

I think you are right. it doesn't matter what we think. It will be fun to see. 

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