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MacPhail: "We've taken a giant step backwards."

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"This was a year that we thought we needed to make a move in terms of wins and losses,” MacPhail said. “It’s important to show some teamwide progress, and to this point we’ve taken a giant step backwards.”

I love what McPhail has done with this team since he took over but the only thing that can be said about this quote is Well DUH. I know we'll turn it around but we did take a few steps forward and a giant leap backwards.

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What abysmal team has scored LESS runs than the Orioles!??!?!?!

Seriously? How could that be possible?

Houston is two runs behind us.

But they are ahead of us in R/G because we have played one more game.

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Mass is one of about 6 states that the Red Sox profit from. I guess you could argue that the Orioles profit from DC and Virginia... but that pales in comparison.

And MASN reaches from Harrisburg to Charlotte. And the Yankees and Sox compete for many of those fans up there. That's stiff competition.

We are only not a regional team because we suck miserably each year.

In my town here in Florida we have a Ravens bar owned by a former Dolphins player. It's filled with purple on Sundays.

5 miles away-another Ravens packed bar.

On the beach a bfast spot with Ravens. Memorabilia and bobbleheads.

There are plenty of Yanks and Sox spots down here.

But our cheap O's are nowhere to be found. Even in Fort Lauderdale there is NOTHING.

Put some real money into the product and that'll change.

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BTW Houston and Baltimore have the same team BA, but Houston's OBP is 18 points lower. Their slugging percentage is 33 points lower, if you can believe that. Imagine watching that team hit.

But they've won twice as many games!

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“They gave us a great road map to how you compete here,” he said of the Rays. “In my view, that’s the only path open to us. We’re not going to be able to outspend Boston and New York.”
That is a really pathetic quote by AM and its also very disheartening.

He is basically stated what I feared....That the only way he feels we can compete is if all of our young players become very good players...Now, we know our young core has to be good but we have the resources to augment that core much better than Tampa does.

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BTW Houston and Baltimore have the same team BA, but Houston's OBP is 18 points lower. Their slugging percentage is 33 points lower, if you can believe that. Imagine watching that team hit.

But they've won twice as many games!

Well, 3 of Houston's wins came against the Pirates... their other wins are against the Cubbies and the Marlins. Which are not exactly the Yankees, Red Sox and Rays.

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You expect the Orioles to be able to spend $180m for payroll?

:rolleyes:

Yes just based on area demographics and POTENTIAL market size. But to realize potential, like any business you have to spend money.

Angelos has had enough fat profit years based off budget baseball and MLB handouts. It's time he does what others do to improve the product to increase market share. Spend money.

Heck forget the Sox. We aren't even spending like the Cardinals, Twins, Seattle, Blue Jays many years...the list goes on.

And MacPhail has never spent money. And a future MLB commish wouldn't want to anyways.

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That is a really pathetic quote by AM and its also very disheartening.

He is basically stated what I feared....That the only way he feels we can compete is if all of our young players become very good players...Now, we know our young core has to be good but we have the resources to augment that core much better than Tampa does.

Yeah. It has gotten to a point where as much as I love the Orioles, I want the ballpark to be completely empty every night just to drive home the fact that "even the dieahards have had enough."

I am truly disgusted with what has happened to this Franchise. MacPhail did a great job of restocking our system, but its becoming more evident that he will not do what is needed to make us a winner. It wouldn't surprise me to see Trembley absolutely BLAST this organization on his way out. He has waited his entire life for this opportunity, and when he finally got it, his GM has not given him the guns to enter the fight. Truly sad!

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Yeah. It has gotten to a point where as much as I love the Orioles, I want the ballpark to be completely empty every night just to drive home the fact that "even the dieahards have had enough."

I am truly disgusted with what has happened to this Franchise. MacPhail did a great job of restocking our system, but its becoming more evident that he will not do what is needed to make us a winner. It wouldn't surprise me to see Trembley absolutely BLAST this organization on his way out. He has waited his entire life for this opportunity, and when he finally got it, his GM has not given him the guns to enter the fight. Truly sad!

The problem with this scenario is that it will just be yet another reason for PA to not open up his purse.

When teams like the Twins can afford a 90+ million dollar payroll and we are crying poor, there is a problem.

I know people don't like the conspiracy theories about PA wanting AM because he is cheap but I think to totally dismiss it is wrong. AM can build a foundation and he can bring in the young talent but can he/will he take that next step to acquire real talent to augment this core? What reason do we have to believe that he will?

He was able to rip off Pittsburgh and Florida and get ARam and Lee in Chicago..Great trades...What are the chances you can make those moves again?

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