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Within current option, you have to imagine Wells and Irvin are now the 4th and 5th starters in April at the very least. This off course weakens the bullpen that was weakened with the trade of Hall.

But he was shutdown in September. He had an entire offseason to be ready. The fact that he's not ready for full go by February, is not good at all in my opinion.

I don't feel good at all. He was shutdown last September after getting started back up and now is not ready. Not good.

Yeah, I'd trying to keep the news in different threads to make it easier to get the news when they log in.

I was talking about the Means news. I know now it came from Roch's twitter.

Once they reshut him down last Fall I knew there was something more wrong with Means. the fact the Orioles knew Means' issues and Bradish's injury since January really makes me wonder why they get more aggressive getting another starter besides Burnes. You spend top prospects to get Burnes and know you are have two starters they may not be ready or ever ready for 2024?

Like I said, they know more about the injury then me, but I have very little hope that PRP therapy actually works on major league pitchers long term. I hope they are right because losing Bradish for this season and part of next would be a gigantic blow.

Where did you read this?

100%. I keep waiting that Adley has an ACL tear or something. What in God's name happened this off season? Did player's over train? Was the workouts too much? Did they not allow themselves to rest enough? I'm not sure I've ever heard of a pitcher spraining their UCL in the offseason. It's just brutal.

I hope they are right because they know way more about the sprain then we do, but they tried this treatment stuff with Tate last year and he missed the whole year and who knows how he'll look this year. I hope he'll be fine but I'm going into this thinking they are delaying the inevitable just like they did with Bautista. The problem is the timing. If they wait until April or May to have the surgery, that's part of 2025 missed as well.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/02/orioles-kyle-bradish-ucl-sprain-elbow-injured-list.html#respond Good Lord what an awful start to the offseason. What the hell kind of offseason program did the Orioles have this offseason? I'm not a big somebody needs to be fired person, but all of these injuries occurred due to an offseason work out design by the Orioles, they need to be "re-evaluated".

Sorry, I've never been a fan of a dump thread because it's too hard to follow for people. I'd rather big news be put in their own threads. I will create a Spring training tracker like I always do to track little things. if you want to help, someone could build that based off the 2023 version. I'll try to get to it tomorrow.

Good Lord, this is about the worse news possible on opening day of camp. How in the world do you sprain your UCL over the offseason? Wow, what a bummer. Guess Elias better get on the phone and get something done or Tyler Wells/Cole Irvin just became starter candidates.

Tate has two options as well. I think he starts in Norfolk barring an injury. they are not DFAing a guy if they don't have to.

Yep, that's why all three of them will make it barring a meltdown this spring or injury.

Yep, I agree. They've shown no indication they want a full-time DH when they use it as sort of a semi-day off at times.

Not sure where he plays everyday though. We need the DH spot for Kjerstad/Adley.

Thanks. That is excellent video. Had to add that guy to my subscribed list.

Mountcastle needs a breakout year this year or his time is probably up here in Baltimore. His .235/.291/.349/.640 against right-handed pitching has to significantly improve this year. This may be a reason to keep O'Hearn around if Kjerstad does not show an ability to play 1B effectively this spring. If Mountcastle is struggling into May against right-handers, he's going to need to be platooned. Mountcastle would make an excellent pinch-hitter against left-handed relievers as well. They Orioles are missing that right-handed punch on their bench right now.

Kjerstad looked nowhere near playable at 1B last year. Now I imagine he's had a whole off season of working on it so perhaps he'll be better. Heck, I hope he can show that he can play there because it opens up more PAs for him. I agree with the OP, O'Hearn probably needs to go. Can't send a 26-year old Kjerstad back to AAA of give him 300 PAs between RF, DH and maybe an occasional LF start in Boston. O'Hearn is not good enough defensively in RF for him to gain value there so hopefully a team will have a need at 1B/DH and come a knocking late in spring training.

Yet there was a reason he was available still in the 3rd round. I'm not bashing on Lord because he might be a steal, but sometimes I think these guys get a little too enamored with a guy because they see certain data like spins rates, shapes and from hitters perspective EVs. All of that is good and it certainly gets us interested, but there are reasons why guys fall to where they fall. Now I didn't see Lord pitch outside of his college videos and he threw a ton of fastballs, something he'll have to adjust at the pro level. Hopefully it will come together but I think it's way too early to put him so high in a deep system like the Orioles. Hopefully Law will be proven right, but that's pretty high for a guy who put up a 6.19 ERA in college last year and has never thrown more than 75 innings in a season during which he had velocity drops. He's got major reliever risk currently.

That was a bit surprising because I didn't talk to anyone, nor did I see any way that Holliday is betetr than Gunnar right now. In the future when Gunnar may lose a little quickness and needs to be at 3B to maximize his defensive value, perhaps, but I didn't see that elite quickness you would like to see from your major league shortstop and the arm is just ok, not well above average like Gunnar's.

I think part of his weakness at times on fastballs too is he's cheating on offspeed pitches which is why I've seen him struggle with good velocity. I wish I had the whiff rates in the minors, but I never noticed a huge problem with him against breaking balls against righties. Now against lefties, sure, but most minor league lefties struggle with good left on left breaking balls. I think a little more highly of him than Law does, but I agree 100% on his take on his defense. There is a some risk to Cowser's bat for sure, but you don't slash .300/.417/.520/.937 because you can't hit offspeed of breaking pitches at all. He may have more whiff than others, and I think he's going to be high strikeout guy, but he also can make some loud contact so I'm not quite as down on the bat as Law is right now. But as I've said before, there is definitely risk that he may end up a 4th outfielder/platoon guy if he can't improve on getting to velocity or hit lefthanders better. It's worth noting that while he misses a lot against lefties, he did hold his own a bit better last year slashing .253/.347/.398/.745 against them so there's hope.

Probably just doesn't have the scouting contacts in the DSL and he's always been hesitant to give too much press to guys who haven't made it to the States yet. Liranzo is very young and if you weren't following his rise throughout the season or heard about his exit velocities and background, he's easy to miss. That's why you have me!

If we see Westburg playing a lot of 3B then It will be a clue that Holliday has a chance of sticking.