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There's a general theme around the MLB that Bryan Reynolds is more valuable. However, you're correct that Mullins WAR was slightly higher in 2022, but also lower in 2021 when Cedric had a great year. They're worth 9.4 and 9.0 over the past two years respectively. For me, if I could get that haul from the LAD, I'd take it. As for Mateo, I'm against Adell, but if we can get a similar top 25 prospect who is starting to bust (Mackenzie Gore?, Forest Whitley, Michael Kopech) I'd be all over that. As we have ready replacements and a very full infield.

Bleacher Report has put together packages of trades given most of the offseason signings are complete: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10063751-fresh-trade-packages-for-mlbs-top-rumored-targets?fbclid=IwAR1mJ7FaI9Nf7UEn_TXOkCH-tqdaXfx0tveR1Fwg5VAWIytS_p5lBbLvK-o Two are relevant for the O's: Mateo to LAA for Jo Adell - personally I pass. While I think we could improve our outfield, this is a pass for me. I think we can get more in an area of great weakness (SP) for Mateo. Bryan Reynolds to LAD for Miller, Pepoit, and Outman - I think this has relevance for a Mullins trade. Reynolds is likely worth more, but I would expect a similar haul in return if we were to trade Mullins. Thoughts?

A DH with many years of professional experience won in 2018

This is where I am, from a top tier impact perspective, it's much more likely ROY goes to a hitter. Last SP was 2016, and then 2011. I think we keep him down for service time and tell everyone we're managing his innings for the playoff run while ramping him up.

SG is right, if they're bench guys they're not worth trading, if they're all-stars we won't trade them. But its the in between 1-2.5 WAR that we're hoping for to net a return and replace with equal ability up the middle (Westburg/Ortiz/Norby).

I'm not saying all, but need a couple to do. And we were contending when we traded Mancini and Lopez, if you're on that bubble you can justify the move unless they're all star level guys.

I think it's an addition by subtraction kind of year: - Gibson/Frazier/Mateo/Urias play well and get traded for piece parts - Hall/Wells/Westburg/Ortiz/Norby play well enough to push their way up

Still perplexed that every league doesn't do what the NBA does. East/West, cut down travel, balanced schedule and then see who the top 6-X teams are from each league at the end of the year.

I could see moving to a GRod/Means piggyback option, after starting the season with a GRod/Wells/Voth piggyback option towards the early part of the season. In the Caravan session, Hyde said that GRod would be monitored for innings/pitches.

I'd be intrigued with this method. If we're making a stretch run, I'd prefer both these guys available, in whatever innings managed earlier in the season for GRod that means.

Other than the obvious from underground, there was a bag for participants of the “who said it” event. Not sure what was in the bag

I went to the rally at Wilde Lake, was a good time. One thing I wish they'd bring back is some of the interactive stuff they did at fanfest, like instructionals for kids. This was an event for older people mostly, with Q&A, who said that, and a couple more activities in a theater. My 7 year old had a relatively good time, but that's because he got some packs of cards and managed to sneak an illegal autograph.

Yea, I'm not sure that info that I've seen is really helpful. Looking for what this has been like in the past, what does this really mean: Watch an interactive show with Orioles players and The Bird at local high school auditoriums. No ticket required; first come, first serve on seating No autographs permitted at the Fan Rally events Free giveaways and promotional items provided (while supplies last)

Anyone know what the fan rallies are? Are they good kid events?

He has proven he's got good stuff and can get big league hitters out. But only in a RP role. He does need to manage his walks and pitch count to prove he can make it 5+ innings consistently.

Other than he's proved hes ready, I'd keep him down as a SP rather than a long man/piggy back.

Except I was DL to remain a starter, not a long man. Do whats best to optimize that

I agree they'll play for 120 and allow it to go to 140-160 if we're in the playoff hunt and he's our number 1. They'll put him every 6 days in the minors and piggy back him when he comes up.

Yup that's my point. And then you can decide around the deadline how to use his innings, push him to 150+ or maintain him at 120 depending upon if we're contending. Irvin makes more sense for controlling GRod.

While we're all arguing over who is and who isn't in the rotation, I'll throw my Elias thinking on the table: Keep GRod down to play service time, and go with Gibson, Irvin, Bradish, Kremer, Voth (with Wells piggy back) to start the season assuming no injury When we can bring GRod up, we do and go to a 6 man, continuing the Wells piggy back for Voth/GRod to manage his innings and give us a better shot in September. All injury dependent, and leaves DL at AAA with a SP job, and could drop to 5 man, or call up DL as next man up.

I could see the keep him down and then turn to a 6 man rotation to "limit his innings"....ie, make sure he doesn't win the ROY until the following year.

Not Voth related, but if this happens, than I think Elias would believe he's still manipulating service time and the incentives provided by the league wouldn't outweigh the cost. However, I think a C who came from NCAA and is "old" might be different than a SP from HS or a SS from HS.

Interesting. Bradish/Kremer/GRod/Gibson/Wells was how most people stacked up with Voth being the odd one out. Is there something that says Wells is a better bullpen piece that Voth other than he's been there before? I'd also rather have DL Hall as a SP for team value for one more shot. Start the year in AAA as the next man up over whoever our swing man is.

Interesting that there's no more chatter here. That fangraphs article puts his xBA, xSLG, xwOBA, barrel rate and average exit velo in the same category as Alvarez, Judge, Harper, Ohtani, and Riley. Not quite as elite across the board, but still very good. His hole was his patience, but even that may be trending better. We talk about a guy who could be non-tendered in a year, but this is also a guy who could have the same impact as Austin Riley this season based on some metrics. Fangraphs projects him for .255/.313/.448 which is similar as last year, but a decent jump in slugging. However, his metrics show him something closer to Riley who had a .273 BA and .528 SLG last year. I'd take those easily with a .313 OBP.

If we got the production out of the current 8, I imagine people here would be upset. If Gunnar = Franco, great, but other than that, there's nothing else definitive there other than B Lowe. Many of these guys are still hopeful, but not useful pieces.