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I know he's not a LHP, but what about Soroka while we're talking about Braves pitchers. Any chance they sell given his injury history?

Give him an opt out after 4, with front-loading. That way you can afford Gunnar/Adley when they hit FA. But yes, it all makes sense in my eyes.

Riddle me this, give up the pick for Eovaldi, or trade Mullins for Lopez. I'd say they're similar quality, but you have to get rid of one piece. What do you get rid of?

I know the mets have unlimited money, but they're out as I see it. With Verlander/Scherzer/Senga/Carasco/Quintana, there's no need for Bassitt. I think Dodgers/Twins/Jays/Giants are our competition for Rodon/Bassitt/Eovaldi.

Not this year, I think we're still borderline playoff team. Next year though I likely would if we think we push into the 95 win territory. And if "all" it takes is Hall/Kremer/Westburg than sure.

The prediction was about right on him, but he took way less years. Most predicted ~4/$54. Looks like market prices are actually coming down. I'm much more Bassitt/Eovaldi/Rodon than Syndegaard.

The first deal for both seems reasonable, but I'd probably make it total IP over the 3 seasons, say 450IP in 3 years and it vests. I'm still taking both if I can get both. Sort out the too many pitcher problem later, because you'll likely have to manage innings and have injuries.

I think some other team will value him at more. They talk about a link to FG, is that the projection tool they use? What system do they use for WAR?

Looked up Mateo. 3.2 in excess value. This is kinda why I think trade him. His excess value per this is only 3.2. I think you can make up for it with Gunnar at SS, Urias at 3B, and Westburg at 2B. With Ortiz and Norby waiting as next man up.

I'm only interested in the contracts what would have been short and improved our (like actually move the needle) team but giving payroll flexibility. Ie, I'm staying away from both Turner/Xander contracts and Walker/Taillon contracts. But I'm also keeping my orange tinted glasses on. So here goes: Verlander: 2/$87 Kershaw: 1/$20 Clevinger: 1/$12

Elias hasnt said anyone. And is so tight you wouldnt know

I wasn't talking Correa, just Eovaldi and Bassit. They were my no 2/3 for the offseason in priorities with Rodon 1. If the price comes down I still consider signing both with the decreasing draft pick loss. You can put Kremer or Grod back at AAA to minimize innings throughout the year. My number 1 is still Rodon though.

Thoughts on signing both these guys for ~3 years? We're losing a pick. Might as well lose two, but not sure what the mentality is on this.

You know two guys with upside at league min? Bradish and Kremer, oh and wells and Voth. Don’t pay for 1.5-2 wins in the market when you have internal options

This probably goes more to the how good are we, but our top 10 hitters last year accumulated 21.8 WAR and and are projected for 24.0 this year. our starting 5 accumulated 5.8 last year and are projected for 6. so our positive gains are unsurprisingly some upside in our hitters. Some small gains with hays and RM, and playing time gains for Gunnar and Adley. Now need health to be good

@Frobby have you cross referenced your predictions with fan graphs /zips/steamer to see how they feel about the team upside and improvement? Would be interesting to see how bullish other projection sources are on some bounce backs and regression

Yes, but we've decreased his value by showing that he doesn't have a spot here with significant playing time.

This sounds good on paper, but the Orioles usage of him has decreased his value. I also still think they trade Mateo over Urias to boost OBP

You'll be able to get JD for that by the time this market settles

Oh well...guess we can close this thread now

Agree, they'll regret it the last 5. Then again it's the yanks.

There goes Judge. Back to the yanks for 9/$360.

Never seen this before. Does this mean his agents charged a fee for his time on a zoom? The chance to even sales pitch now costs money?

I know that @Frobbyhas done some analysis on big contracts, but I'm always curious about the long ones. Is $27 mil even going to be a lot in 11 years? Or that will be the average salary for 1-1.5WAR, which maybe even Trea can achieve at 41 as a LF and OBP machcine. Anyone have insight on the back years of non-Miguel Cabrera/Albert Pujols like contracts? Like Stanton is "only" making 25 mil in the back years of hi contract. He produced 1.2 WAR in 112 games last year. He could easily still be a 2 WAR player if healthy

Is Gibson going to unsign here if we move Mateo in January? Not sure that's how that works. And do you know, without seeing the product, that an IF of Urias/Gunnar/Westburg is defensively worse than Gunnar/Mateo/Urias?