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Hall done for the night. Four innings pitched. Two singles, no runs, 6 k's and 0 walks.

I know what you mean Too Tall. The same guys hijack every thread spewing their vitriol. They think they know it all and the world revolves around them and if you don't agree with them 100% then you're "stupid". It does get old!

Ha! Good luck with that!

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For what it's worth, here's another source claiming a massive offer by the Orioles to Correa: https://clutchpoints.com/orioles-news-carlos-correas-massive-offer-from-baltimore-revealed/

I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to Can of Corn.

You can play word games all you want. My point couldn't be any simpler. I disagree with signing free agents that aren't going to be with the team long term, just so we're more presentable and win 15 more games a year. I'd rather lose those 15 games and get the higher draft picks just to see if that approach works better than the old way. And apparently Mike Elias agrees with this approach because that's what he's doing. So all I'm saying is let's give him that chance and if it doesn't work then I'll be on the bandwagon to run him out of town the same as you and try something different.

Okay, so one or two years - whatever it is. It just seems like three years because you hijack every thread here with the same old talk. No, not everything is identical to that time frame but the most important part is the same - and that's your absurd insistence that we sign free agents that give us 15 more wins a season just so we're more "presentable." I could care less if we're more presentable if we still aren't a .500 team. Especially if it costs us the draft picks we need to finally get out of this conundrum.

Well, yes, and that's proving my point. Those three picks were 7th, 5th, and 3rd overall so those three picks were the results of teams that were bad enough to draft players that could move the needle. But that was rare during that time frame. It only happened three times in 14 years. Name some other picks from the middle of the rounds that moved the needle from the other 11 years. That's where we would be drafting now if we went with Sports Guy's approach of signing free agents that merely got us 15 more wins a season but no post season play instead of drafting the AR's and Kjerstad's and Cowser's of the world.

Those were all players we drafted. That's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the countless times Sports Guy has said over the past three years that we should sign free agent x or free agent y because that wouldn't hurt the rebuild and it would make the team more presentable and give us 15 more wins a season. Yes, they could have signed those types of players and got those additional wins but in the end it would have cost us some of these high draft picks which is exactly what our approach was during the 14 losing seasons. All I'm saying is let's see if Elias' different approach will work. Maybe it will. Maybe it won't but it's at least worth trying since the other way didn't work.

It's not a misrepresentation at all. That's simply your comeback every time you lose an argument with anyone on here.

It sure didn't move the team's needle. 14 consecutive losing seasons. 'Nuff said.

Sports Guy, I love your passion. I really do. But there's one thing I just don't get with your insistence that you're right in everything that you are advocating that the Orioles should be doing. What you are describing in what you think management should be doing is EXACTLY what management did from 1998 - 2011! What was the result of that? I'll tell you. It was 14 consecutive years of losing records. We tried that approach. It didn't work. Why on earth do you want to go back to a proven failed approach?? We never won enough games to have a winning record, yet we never lost enough games to get good enough draft picks to draft guys that could move the needle. That's because we kept doing what you are advocating now - sign guys who would help us win 10 more games a season but we were still just spinning our wheels year after year. Now do I know for a fact that this "losing approach" is going to be any better? No. But I do know that we have a much better farm system because of it which greatly increases our odds of that happening. And I also know that your approach didn't work in those 14 years. So why not let this play out to see if it will work? I'm like many others here. I'll be as frustrated as you if we don't start seeing results real soon but I don't think it's unreasonable to give Elias one more year.

Jared Diamond of the Wall Street Journal reports (on Twitter) that beginning in 2023, the schedule will be adjusted such that every team plays all 29 opponents in each season. The exact format is to be determined, but those games will come attached to a decrease in the number of intra-divisional games teams will play. Previously, teams played 19 games per season against all four of their divisional opponents.

Jace Jung joins the list: https://medium.com/minor-league-madhouse/2022-mlb-mock-draft-merry-mockmas-42f886bc9183

Got a new one: Chase DeLauter. https://www.prospectslive.com/prospects-live/2021/11/1/2022-mlb-draft-top-200-prospects

I would love to see this as well but my guess is he will be slow played for a while since he's missed so much time and is coming back from a serious condition.

I personally would hope they wouldn't pick up the phone. Because there's no way I would give them the number 5 overall pick with six years of team control for two years of a decent starting pitcher when it's very unlikely we'll be competitive those two years.

Heston feels like his "old self."

I asked him when he was three feet from me in the on deck circle but he ignored me so I figured I wouldn't press it.

I'll ask again here since no one apparently knew the answer when I asked in the minor league forum. Does anyone know why Colton wore number 20 for Delmarva? Surely he knows he can't wear that number as an Oriole.

I've always thought this myself. But I guess the downside would be you might end up warming him up much more often than the other way not knowing what rallies turn into legitimate needs for your best reliever and which ones end up getting snuffed out while he is warming up.

I thought it would be interesting to keep up with all the different players who are projected by different publications for the Orioles to choose as the top draft pick in 2022. Of course some of these publications will have much more merit than others but I'll list everything I come across just for the sake of interest. Initially, here is what I see: Elijah Green. https://throughthefencebaseball.com/2022-mlb-mock-draft-1-0-elijah-green-brooks-lee/ Brooks Lee. http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft Terrmarr Johnson. https://medium.com/minor-league-madhouse/2022-mlb-mock-draft-end-of-season-edition-ae9f30e87719 Druw Jones. https://www.prospectslive.com/prospects-live/2021/10/3/a-why-so-soon-2022-mlb-mock-draft

You have zero idea? I can spell it out for you. The name of the game right now for Elias is tanking. So why in the world would you be trying something innovative while you're trying to tank? Now when they start trying to win, whether that's 2022 or 2023, then you can expect them to start trying innovative things.

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