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This from Cards Clubhouse is just CLASSIC...

From some poster named Ozarkbird:

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Lohse and Jay for Jones and Matusz... :eektf:

Awesome

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:54 am Post subject:

He was an All-Star once a few years ago. I would say Jones is only good enough to be a fourth outfielder but his splits are reversed. I don't believe the overestimation of other teams' talent. Matusz washed out much worse than Rasmus and Jones has never had an OPS over 0.792.

Suddenly, our lunacies seem less outlandish.
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If it is a Jones deal, no way in imagination does he get us Jay/McClellan/Shelby. Miller is probably going to be ranked a top 5 prospect in baseball. I think Guthrie gets us Jay and maybe some change to put towards a second prospect, i.e. Guthrie/Jones for Shelby/Jay/Cleto. I would love that deal.

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If it is a Jones deal, no way in imagination does he get us Jay/McClellan/Shelby. Miller is probably going to be ranked a top 5 prospect in baseball. I think Guthrie gets us Jay and maybe some change to put towards a second prospect, i.e. Guthrie/Jones for Shelby/Jay/Cleto. I would love that deal.

That's another 20 million or so in salary for them to take on. I dunno if they'd do that.

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April 1, 2010: The St. Louis Cardinals traded Julio Lugo to the Baltimore Orioles for player to be named or cash.

July 31, 2000: The Baltimore Orioles traded Will Clark and cash to the St. Louis Cardinals for Jose Leon.

July 29, 2000: The Baltimore Orioles traded Mike Timlin and cash to the St. Louis Cardinals for Mark Nussbeck (minors) and Chris Richard.

March 30, 1984: The Baltimore Orioles purchased Floyd Rayford from the St. Louis Cardinals.

March 25, 1984: The Baltimore Orioles traded Tito Landrum to the St. Louis Cardinals for Jose Brito (minors).

June 14, 1983: The Baltimore Orioles traded Floyd Rayford to the St. Louis Cardinals for a player to be named later. The St. Louis Cardinals sent Tito Landrum (August 31, 1983) to the Baltimore Orioles to complete the trade

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