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Just a thought exercise. What would it take to trade for Harper?

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But would you really want to have another #1 overall draft pick on our records? I pride myself in the fact that we've only had 1, the same number as the Yankees. And we still got Machado, maybe not Harper, but still something. How would have you felt if we lost 105 games that year, AND Harper was a bust?

I agree wholeheartedly with the post you quoted.

C'mon, another losing season in a streak of 12 at the time? What's 5 or 6 more losses over the past decade that'd net us a once in a generation talent?

This kid is awesome. He hustles hard out of the box every time. I heard someone talking about him, might have been Kurkjian...he said that Harper isn't a burner but his 4 triples already this year are a testament to the fact that he's thinking extra bases out of the box every time.

He's 19 and doing more than holding his own....by some metrics, as it stands right now, he's the best hitter on a first place ballclub. I'd give practically anyone and any amount of cash to get him and that probably includes Bundy.

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Just be patient. Thank the Nats for starting his service time when he's 19, and watch the Yankees give him the biggest contract in MLB history during his prime. That's about all you can do in terms of acquiring him.

Fixed that for you.

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I hear what you and everyone with your sentiment is saying, but I think you guys are overlooking the biggest factor, which is his age. He is only 19 years old. Pujols is almost 33. If it was Pujols for Harper, no money involved, the Nats would reject it simply based on the age difference. What makes my hypothetical deal remotely realistic is Trout. Trout is going to be special, and he is only 20.

Harper is a big deal. The biggest of deals hitter wise in over a decade. He is in a different league then Matt was as a prospect. He is in a class with guys like Griffey and Arod when they were prospects.

All money considerations aside, I agree that Harper is probably more valuable than Pujols at this point. I have no problem with that. The problem arises when you say Harper is more valuable than Pujols and Trout combined.

Trout is the better player.

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All money considerations aside, I agree that Harper is probably more valuable than Pujols at this point. I have no problem with that. The problem arises when you say Harper is more valuable than Pujols and Trout combined.

Trout is the better player.

It's very possible Trout ends up being better. I think were witnessing something really amazing with Trout and Harper coming up at the same time. I read an article comparing them to Mantle/Mays when they arrived together, and while it's a bit premature, it would not surprise me to see it turn out that way.

On another note, the Angels can thank the Orioles for Trout falling so far. The Billy Rowell disaster made a lot of teams scared of NJ studs.

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Just be patient. Thank the Nats for starting his service time when he's 19, and give him the biggest contract in MLB history during his prime. That's about all you can do in terms of acquiring him.

Remember that 10/300 deal that Pujols wanted? Just think what a 25 y/o Harper might get. He may blow that away.

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Remember that 10/300 deal that Pujols wanted? Just think what a 25 y/o Harper might get. He may blow that away.

I think that with the direction the MLB is going, if this CBA is any indication, and the fact that most of those contracts have screwed teams over, it's going to be harder to just throw that kind of money and length at players. It looks like the league is getting more serious about revenue sharing and the luxury tax, and teams have proven that they can get top talent for a long time off the rookie contracts.

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Bryce Harper according to all the experts is a "generational-type" player.

As good as Jones, Bundy, and Machado are/will be, I'm not sure I'd put them in that category.

That is a tremendously lopsided trade, in favor of the Nationals. Harper will be fortunate to have the career that Adam Jones has already. If he is generational, it is still lopsided.

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That is a tremendously lopsided trade, in favor of the Nationals. Harper will be fortunate to have the career that Adam Jones has already. If he is generational, it is still lopsided.

Fortunate? No, I don't think so. I'd say Adam Jones' career is more like his floor, if he stays healthy. It's just incredibly rare for a 19-year-old to even be an average MLBer. You have to go back 80+ years to find somebody who's played like Harper as a teenager. Maybe he regresses as the year goes on, but even then there are less than 20 ONE WAR players at 19 in all of MLB history. And the overwhelming majority ended up as at least very good players. Half were HOFers.

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I wouldn't trade Bundy for Harper even up.

If you asked me what was a better bet, a great 19 year old hitting prospect already playing well in the majors, or a great 19-20 year old pitcher, I'd have to say the hitter. Half of the position players who make the majors and play halfway decent at 19 end up in the Hall. There are pitchers who had 2+ WAR by their 20th birthday that I've never heard of. While there's nearly a 100% success rate among teenage MLB hitters, the list of top pitchers who were good prior to turning 21 is littered with names like Dick Drott, Wally Bunker, Edwin Correa, Victor Cruz, Ray Sadecki, and Dave Rozema.

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This goes without saying, but I'm going to say it anyway. ^That^ is just crazy.

It has nothing to do with Harper's talent. The O's already have above average talent in center and right, what they lack is above average talent on the mound.

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