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I never said the kid doesn't have talent, but look at him for what he really is. 5'9 160 lbs dripping wet..right handed pitcher who throws in the mid 80's. Hasn't grown or added velocity in the past 3 years. Yeah, he's good, and he'll probably be good enough to play college ball, but all I'm trying to say is that he isn't projectable to be the first round ballot hall of famer that he's hyped up to be. He puts up the numbers for high school, and he has the stuff to play college ball, but the question lies within his projectability to the professional level, and I believe (along with a lot of high school/legion coaches that I've played for and talked to) that he isn't projectable to the major league level, and thats not something you'd ever hear from the press, which seems to feed people the idea that he's a superstar.

So to answer your questions, yes he is a high school star, yes he deserves his scholarship, and maybe he does have D1 talent. My issue with him lies within his now known character issues and his lack of projectability in my opinion, and because of those issues, I don't feel he is necessarily worthy of the hype, and it bugs me that people just believe the press and assume he's some future mlb star. What the press won't tell you is that he's very arrogant, and he appears to be alienated from most of the team, save for his few buddies. From what I've seen, he's a me first player who doesn't really respect the game. After seeing that, and then reading almost the exact opposite in the papers, you really start to scratch your head at the idea of Hibbs being as advertised.

I just don't pereceive the same amount of hype that you do. Whether a high school player projects to a 1st ballot HOF'er is unrelated to his current talent level. I played one year of club ball with Ken Cloude who went on to be drafted by the Mariners. He was NOT the best pitcher on our team that season but was drafted 2 years later.

I still don't see anyone anywhere predicting success for him at the big league level. As far as arrogance is concerned...plenty of stud athletes are that way. For a teenager, character issues are nowhere near as newsworthy (although ALWAYS relevant in my opinion) as his success on the field. Kids change.

Kids also use bad judgement and often require learning a tough lesson before they shape up, particularly when they've been pumped up since tee ball.

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I just don't pereceive the same amount of hype that you do. Whether a high school player projects to a 1st ballot HOF'er is unrelated to his current talent level. I played one year of club ball with Ken Cloude who went on to be drafted by the Mariners. He was NOT the best pitcher on our team that season but was drafted 2 years later.

I still don't see anyone anywhere predicting success for him at the big league level. As far as arrogance is concerned...plenty of stud athletes are that way. For a teenager, character issues are nowhere near as newsworthy (although ALWAYS relevant in my opinion) as his success on the field. Kids change.

Kids also use bad judgement and often require learning a tough lesson before they shape up, particularly when they've been pumped up since tee ball.

I guess from playing with him, I've seen him in a different perspective than the press reports about him. I guess my issue is that the Sun really hypes him, but other sources such as Baseball America don't give him much coverage. Seeing that and playing in the same league as him, I guess I've grown to view the Sun's hype as a little unnecessary.

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Hibbs ranks as a three-star prospect for BaseballAmerica. Here is the summary of what that ranking means:

"A 3-star player has the potential to be an above-average college player capable of starring in the top NCAA programs, or a player who shows the physical ability to be drafted in the top 25 rounds in the professional draft. Often a player will show himself to be a good 3-star player in the college sense, but because of lack of size or speed or some other factor valued by professional scouts might not be as highly regarded as a pro prospect. In these cases the player will always be placed in the 3-star category, as that is what his college potential is evaluated as. Because of the amount of projection involved in evaluating 16-17 year old pitchers, the 3-star and 2-star categories will likely be heavy with this type of prospect. Some get stronger and develop into 4-star players, some will fall back. Every effort will be made to provide enough commentary on these type pitchers so that coaches/scouts reading the evaluation will hopefully be able to focus in on the areas they consider important."

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Actually, the title says Arundel Star, and there is never a mention of "high school star" several times before that quote. If you look at the article, that quote is immediately after the first paragraph, and there is never several mentions of him being a high school star before that quote.

It's implied by "Arundel" and "All-Metro baseball Player of the Year." Anyone with any interest in the story knows these are high school things.

I don't doubt in any way that he was probably a jerk to you when you played with him. But you're coming off as extremely jealous ...

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It's implied by "Arundel" and "All-Metro baseball Player of the Year." Anyone with any interest in the story knows these are high school things.

I don't doubt in any way that he was probably a jerk to you when you played with him. But you're coming off as extremely jealous ...

I never said he was a jerk to me. Not once at all was he a jerk to me. Just said he seems to alienate his teammates for the most part, which is a bad habit to get into at a young age.

Even if it was implied, you said that the article specifically stated that he was a high school star several times before the phrase I quoted, which simply is not the case.

Read what stotle posted about him being a 3 star prospect, and then read what I've been saying about him being undersized and not projectable to the pro level. Just because I played in the same league as him, and what I said also happens to be similar in opinion to Baseball America, a highly regarded prospect site, does not make me jealous at all, and I'm sorry if you feel that way, but your claims are untrue.

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I get the whole Arundel = Yankees, but are you suggesting the hype has corrupted the judgement of a good baseball school like Florida State to the extent that they offered him a full scholarship? Are you saying he's not worthy of the scholarship?

I say a free ride to a D1 school to play baseball makes you a high school baseball star, regardless of what school from which you hope to graduate.

Just FYI, and this is a common misperception, no one gets a full ride for baseball. I've heard many people say they get a full ride and I know for a fact they haven't. The most I've ever heard of is about 60%. Teams have about 13.7 scholarships, so most people get less than 50%.

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Just FYI, and this is a common misperception, no one gets a full ride for baseball. I've heard many people say they get a full ride and I know for a fact they haven't. The most I've ever heard of is about 60%. Teams have about 13.7 scholarships, so most people get less than 50%.

I heard he got 80%.

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The percentage on baseball scholarships may vary from college to college. My oldest son was offered a baseball scholarship to Davis & Elkins. It was for 50%, and we were told that was the most they were allowed to offer. My son elected to join the Marines instead....wrong decision IMO....but it was his choice.

As for Tyler Hibbs' situation, it makes me sick to see any kid throw away his future because of drugs. It's happening far too often in todays' society.

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The percentage on baseball scholarships may vary from college to college. My oldest son was offered a baseball scholarship to Davis & Elkins. It was for 50%, and we were told that was the most they were allowed to offer. My son elected to join the Marines instead....wrong decision IMO....but it was his choice.

As for Tyler Hibbs' situation, it makes me sick to see any kid throw away his future because of drugs. It's happening far too often in todays' society.

I've also heard it was not his first offense and he has already mentioned getting back into the drugs once things cool down. He deserves everthing he gets IMHO.

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