Jump to content

Offseason Rumors and Deals Around MLB

neveradoubt

By neveradoubt
in Orioles Talk

Recommended Posts

JayThomas All-Star

JayThomas

Posted
Posted
Of course he is, that guy is a lunatic who thinks too highly of himself. I'm not really a fan of the nationals in anyway, but I feel bad they have to keep that poison

I don't feel bad for the Nats or any other team that takes on that kind of player for that kind of salary.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 3k
  • Created
  • Last Reply
JayThomas All-Star

JayThomas

Posted
Posted
A lot of people thought that Porcello was a great deal around here. I think we all would agree that he is one of the worst contracts out there now.

I don't remember anyone ever thinking that was a good contact. That was a Carl Crawford/Jason Werth/Barry Zito - bad contract from the get-go.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
JayThomas All-Star

JayThomas

Posted
Posted
The New FO office is the Fo because the old FO did not do what the ownership wanted.

Sometimes it's not possible to deliver what ownership wants. In my industry there are investors who want 20% returns with 0 risk, but that does not exist in this universe.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Dark Helmet Hangout Grand Counsel

Dark Helmet

Posted
Posted
Ah so you are going to leave out certain things in your comparison to make sure you have "enough evidence" to back up your view point. Well at least you are honest about not wanting to discuss things evenly.

Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk

I just named an example. Not sure what the hell your trying to imply. Don't put words in my mouth please.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Dark Helmet Hangout Grand Counsel

Dark Helmet

Posted
Posted
Ah so you are going to leave out certain things in your comparison to make sure you have "enough evidence" to back up your view point. Well at least you are honest about not wanting to discuss things evenly.

Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk

And Norris may turn out to be a stud. But I'm not going to count on that until he does. I'm simply comparing Price and Zimmerman. Price makes the Tigers better than Zimmerman does. Not sure how you can disagree.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Crazysilver03 Hangout Grand Counsel

Crazysilver03

Posted
Posted
And Norris may turn out to be a stud. But I'm not going to count on that until he does. I'm simply comparing Price and Zimmerman. Price makes the Tigers better than Zimmerman does. Not sure how you can disagree.

Sure. Price is better than Zimmerman. In a vacuum. You are just ignoring everything else. JZ is coming on a shorter deal and for much less money then Price will command. Plus Detroit acquired some decent pieces for him that will likely be better than whoever is drafted with the comp pick they receive.

Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

Can_of_corn

Posted
Posted
Sure. Price is better than Zimmerman. In a vacuum. You are just ignoring everything else. JZ is coming on a shorter deal and for much less money then Price will command. Plus Detroit acquired some decent pieces for him that will likely be better than whoever is drafted with the comp pick they receive.

Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk

Tigers also coughed up a second rounder.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Dark Helmet Hangout Grand Counsel

Dark Helmet

Posted
Posted
Sure. Price is better than Zimmerman. In a vacuum. You are just ignoring everything else. JZ is coming on a shorter deal and for much less money then Price will command. Plus Detroit acquired some decent pieces for him that will likely be better than whoever is drafted with the comp pick they receive.

Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk

Fair enough. I'm not ignoring everything else. I just don't count on uncertainties. Also, I can't remember all the players involved, but I assume the Tigers gave up some decent players to get Price from Tampa. Doesn't that negate some of what they got back from Toronto?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Crazysilver03 Hangout Grand Counsel

Crazysilver03

Posted
Posted
Fair enough. I'm not ignoring everything else. I just don't count on uncertainties. Also, I can't remember all the players involved, but I assume the Tigers gave up some decent players to get Price from Tampa. Doesn't that negate some of what they got back from Toronto?

Not really, at least in context of resigning Price or signing Zimmerman.

Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites
backwardsk Hangout Grand Counsel

backwardsk

Posted
Posted
Apparently Cueto turned down a 6/120 office from Arizona. There's no way he's getting a 7th year and I'd personally be shocked if he got more than 6/130.

He sees JZ getting 22 per, he wants that. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get it.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • Sports Guy
      Elias on contract extensions

      By Sports Guy · Posted

      Gunnar is the only one you worry about. I would still sign Holliday as well but I think Gunnar is the bigger fish to fry. I no longer would consider an extension for Adley. I would wait on anyone else.
    • Chromehill
      JD Martinez

      By Chromehill · Posted

      Something that doesn't show up on the stat sheet is something like being able to hit behind the runner to advance him.   The O's have been successful in building an analytics offense.   Focus on hitting homeruns, develop a swing to achieve optimum launch angle and exit velocity to hit the ball over the fence.  Result is they have a team of beer league software players and not baseball players and struggle to score when not hitting homeruns.   Analytically, if you review their offensive rankings for the season, it says, nothing wrong with the offense, at least from a macro review, but we all know that this offense has issues.   Runs - 4th Home runs - 3rd AVG - 7th OBP - 11th SLG - 3rd OPS - 4th  K's - 18th (this was interesting to see considering how much they seem to strikeout) All of the above looks good, nothing to fix. The O's had 6 sacrifice hits for the season, ranking 30th.  Interestingly, Arizona who led the league in runs scored also led the league in sacrifice hits with 34.   The O's do not need to necessarily to focus on small ball, but they do need to be able to add that skillset to their offensive arsenal.  
    • waroriole
      Do the Orioles need someone like Machado?

      By waroriole · Posted

      Sounds like Buck. Anything to get a slight advantage. It’s something this team sorely misses. 
    • JR Oriole
      Other teams playoffs game thread

      By JR Oriole · Posted

      Detroit has been so much fun to watch. They have Skubal and literally 11 completely interchangeable pitchers who Hinch uses at any time and in any situation. They all can start games, throw in middle relief, and close. Every Tigers pitcher has to be ready to come in at any time because nobody other than Skubal actually has a defined role, which can certainly help keep them focused.  That guy Holton who started Game 1 in Cleveland closed Game 3 yesterday.  Of course he did! And Hinch seems to have complete faith in everybody, which I guess works since they all seem to have rubber arms and never get tired. It must be so annoying as an opposing manager to try and game plan against them or to be a hitter and have absolutely no idea who you are going to be facing until you actually walk up to the plate.  Not sure how long this "gimmick" will last, but it has been really enjoyable.
    • Can_of_corn
      Elias on contract extensions

      By Can_of_corn · Posted

      So if Westburg ends up being a very good but not MVP level player you aren't interesting in extending him at a team friendly rate? I disagree with your strategy. If you can lock up even a young 3 win player at a team friendly rate I say do it.
    • Chromehill
      What's Your Top Priority

      By Chromehill · Posted

      The most obvious player to extend is Gunnar, his agent is Boras, which means most likely, he will not be interested in an extension.  All others, you have to wait and see.  Adley after that horrible second half, you really need to see if he bounces back.  Westburg, need a full season before locking him up, plus he would probably want a season to post big numbers.  Cowser, wait and see if he learns the strike zone before extending.  
    • Jagwar
      Elias on contract extensions

      By Jagwar · Posted

      I agree with you on Gunnar. I'd wait on Westburg until he puts up a Gunnar like season, and spend money on Burnes this offseason. Oh and do something temporary to bring the RF wall in 10-15 feet

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...