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Newcomb and Blair are very very nice prospects, but that's all they are at this point..Prospects. If they come up this season, they'll be able to move some of those arms in the offseason.

But you said upside. Those guys you mentioned do have that type of upside.

I'm not sure Bundy still has that type of upside or if Harvey ever had it.

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Okay so I'm spit balling here!

There has been mention of a Markakis return by some here. Some like and some don't. I read that Teheran might be available in trade as the Braves are rebuilding and he will be nearing free agency when the Braves are relevant again.

Teheran is under control through 2020 with salaries of 3.3, 6.3, 8, 11, and an option for 2020 at 12 million. All real values considering the rise in salaries. He did have two really solid years in 2013 & 2014. He had a bit of a down years in comparison and he was still good enough to win 11 starts with a 4.04 ERA. The concern is that he gave up homer totals of 22, 22, & 27.

Let's say the Orioles agree to take Markakis and his salary for a dump. Teheran is still going to be a 3-4 to 1 type player.

I'm not a big trade guy so I asking what would it take?

Orioles Teheran, Markakis

Braves Bundy or Harvey, Jomar Reyes, C Walker or D Alvarez, M Wright, Givens, and Tanner Scott.

Thoughts?

Sorry but I believe the O's would still have problems in RF with Nick coming over

in a trade. Just so someone doesn't get upset with me I have nothing against Nick

the human it's in my opinion he would not a good RF now.

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Walker and Alvarez for the two of them.

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This may sound harsh, but have you learned anything about trade proposals since you been a member, because this is pretty close to stuff you were posting when you first started. You can not trade spare pieces for value and have been told this before. Even offering Bundy/Walker is nowhere close to what would be needed.

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Really don't see how this make sense, maybe I'm just looking at it wrong.

Why would we take on Kakes again, while giving ATL a bunch of players that they don't really need? Them trading Teheran would be like us trading Gausman at this point, they don't have anyone there with the upside he has.

If I'm trading for anyone in ATL if I was in the FO, it's Wisler and Inciarte.

The Braves are stocked with high upside arms after all the trades they have made. Trading for those two that you suggest would cost more in prospecta then what it would take to acquire the two that the OP suggests.

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This may sound harsh, but have you learned anything about trade proposals since you been a member, because this is pretty close to stuff you were posting when you first started. You can not trade spare pieces for value and have been told this before. Even offering Bundy/Walker is nowhere close to what would be needed.

We all need a little harsh criticism if it's called for. History has shown that some guys are more than the sum of their parts. Chris Davis, Adam Jones, etc. For example, when the Sawx traded for Big Papi, he wasn't good in Minnesota because of the ballpark. He goes to Boston and kills it because how he hit was what the sox needed and how he hit was perfect for that ballpark. Maybe walker would be better in Atlanta than Camden. Who knows until he plays there.

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We all need a little harsh criticism if it's called for. History has shown that some guys are more than the sum of their parts. Chris Davis, Adam Jones, etc. For example, when the Sawx traded for Big Papi, he wasn't good in Minnesota because of the ballpark. He goes to Boston and kills it because how he hit was what the sox needed and how he hit was perfect for that ballpark. Maybe walker would be better in Atlanta than Camden. Who knows until he plays there.

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Minnesota non-tendered Ortiz and he signed as a free agent with Boston.

Where does Walker play in Atlanta? Sure some players out perform what the reports say about them but it is quite rare. It is better to go off actual stata and scouting reports.

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Minnesota non-tendered Ortiz and he signed as a free agent with Boston.

Where does Walker play in Atlanta? Sure some players out perform what the reports say about them but it is quite rare. It is better to go off actual stata and scouting reports.

You're right, but sometimes it's better to look for diamonds in the rough who fit your park than to go off of just stats. Scouting departments get guys like Ortiz because of ballpark design and how he hits. That's why everything plays together if you think about it. Why does KC not rely on HR's like we do? Ballpark. I understand what you're getting at, but sometimes you have to take a calculated risk.

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The Braves are stocked with high upside arms after all the trades they have made. Trading for those two that you suggest would cost more in prospecta then what it would take to acquire the two that the OP suggests.

Sure it would, but so would Teheran. We don't have the guys to even sniff him, we'd have to deal Gausman plus.

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Sure it would, but so would Teheran. We don't have the guys to even sniff him, we'd have to deal Gausman plus.

The Braves are smart enough to know that the Orioles are trying to win. They are not going to demand Gausman when looking for a deal. Since they aren't competing in the next 2-3 years they are better off with high ceiling guys that they dont need to use of their service time now. I think Harvey would be more valuable if he proves to be healthy over Gausman or Bundy. The other players I mentioned earlier all have minor league options I believe.

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Substitute inciarte for markakis then its good deal!!!

I doubt we have enough for Teheran and Inciarte in the minors. It would not benefit the Braves to deal those two guys together. Part of the reason they consider Teheran is the wasted years in his contract due to the rebuild and the fact that we would be willing to take Markakis and his salary.

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