Jump to content

2016 8th Round - Ryan Moseley - RHP - Texas Tech

weams

Recommended Posts

weams Hangout Grand Counsel

weams

Posted
Posted

Buck's boy strikes!

<iframe src='http://m.mlb.com/shared/video/embed/embed.html?content_id=738058283&topic_id=40395496&width=400&height=224&property=mlb' width='400' height='224' frameborder='0'>Your browser does not support iframes.</iframe>

Link to comment
Share on other sites
O-Arm36 Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

O-Arm36

Posted
Posted

From mlb.com

"A catcher early in his prep career, Moseley didn't become a full-time pitcher until he was a senior in 2013 but quickly showed top-five-rounds upside on the mound. He slid to the Rays in the 36th round because he was set on attending Texas Tech, where he moved into the rotation late in his freshman year and didn't allow an earned run in four NCAA playoff starts as the Red Raiders advanced to the College World Series. His solid sophomore season and spectacular fall had scouts thinking he'd emerge as a first-round pick this June, but he lasted just three starts this spring before getting pulled from the rotation. There's no doubt that Moseley has enough pitches to start. His primary weapon is a 91-95 mph fastball with power sink. Both of his low-80s secondary pitches can be at least above-average offerings at their best, with his lively changeup more consistent than his slider. The problem is that Moseley's control and command aren't sharp, which gets him in trouble because he's more hittable than he should be and runs up his pitch counts too quickly. His stuff is more electric in shorter stints, so he could become a high-leverage reliever in the big leagues, but pro clubs aren't ready to give up on him as a starter."

Link to comment
Share on other sites
QBsILLEST1 All-Star

QBsILLEST1

Posted
Posted
College Juniors are rarely major underslot guys-especially in the 8th round. I don't see any real major underslot guys yet.

Palmeiro seems quite underslot....

I actually am a fan of this pick.

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites
jcarm Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

jcarm

Posted
Posted
Palmeiro seems quite underslot....

I actually am a fan of this pick.

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk

Palmeiro is a Junior in college. He might sign for slightly underslot. The slot value for where he was picked is $204,700. He might sign for $180K. Probably not a true major underslot.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Fred Manfraud Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

Fred Manfraud

Posted
Posted

Reading through all these threads, it's amazing to me how everyone is so preoccupied with whether each draft pick is "underslot". I do understand how the system works. For one thing, you can draft four "underslot" players but it doesn't particularly matter if you don't draft talented prospects worthy of "overslot" money. I'm not saying the Orioles haven't done that because I have no idea. I know that's what happened with Gray Fenter last year. People seem more concerned with whether the Orioles can get a bargain than if the guy is deserving of being picked at that particular spot in the draft. On a side note, thanks to Weams and everyone else who has contributed to compiling all the statistics, scouting reports, and videos on the draft picks. You are all "overslot" picks on my draft board.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

Can_of_corn

Posted
Posted
Reading through all these threads, it's amazing to me how everyone is so preoccupied with whether each draft pick is "underslot". I do understand how the system works. For one thing, you can draft four "underslot" players but it doesn't particularly matter if you don't draft talented prospects worthy of "overslot" money. I'm not saying the Orioles haven't done that because I have no idea. I know that's what happened with Gray Fenter last year. People seem more concerned with whether the Orioles can get a bargain than if the guy is deserving of being picked at that particular spot in the draft. On a side note, thanks to Weams and everyone else who has contributed to compiling all the statistics, scouting reports, and videos on the draft picks. You are all "overslot" picks on my draft board.

Not speaking for anyone else.

Frankly I am more interested in the idea of an overslot kid that has 2-3 round talent than I am someone that is an eighth round talent. Odds are long regardless but eighth round is really long.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Fred Manfraud Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

Fred Manfraud

Posted
Posted
Not speaking for anyone else.

Frankly I am more interested in the idea of an overslot kid that has 2-3 round talent than I am someone that is an eighth round talent. Odds are long regardless but eighth round is really long.

Fair enough and, of course, true. But the odds become even longer when you are drafting an eighth rounder mostly because he will sign for $10,000.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • Brian88
      2024 Week 4: Ravens vs Bills on SNF

      By Brian88 · Posted

      The same thing was happening was MacDonald was the DC and when Wink was the DC, that makes me put most of the blame on Harbaugh 
    • Hallas
      Can Cowser still win Rookie of The Year over Gil/Wells ?

      By Hallas · Posted

      dWAR is just the run value for defense added with the defensive adjustment.  Corner OF spots have a -7.5 run adjustment, while CF has a +2.5 adjustment over 150 games.    Since Cowser played both CF and the corners they pro-rate his time at each to calculate his defensive adjustment. 
    • e16bball
      Can Cowser still win Rookie of The Year over Gil/Wells ?

      By e16bball · Posted

      Just to be clear, though, fWAR also includes a substantial adjustment for position, including a negative one for Cowser.  For a clearer example on that front, as the chart posted higher on this page indicates, Carlos Santana had a +14 OAA — which is the source data that fWAR’s defensive component is based on. That 14 outs above average equates to 11-12 (they use different values on this for some reason) runs better than the average 1B.  So does Santana have a 12.0 defensive value, per fWAR? He does not. That’s because they adjust his defensive value downward to reflect that he’s playing a less difficult/valuable position. In this case, that adjustment comes out to -11.0 runs, as you can see here:   So despite apparently having a bona fide Gold Glove season, Santana’s Fielding Runs value (FanGraphs’ equivalent to dWAR) is barely above average, at 1.1 runs.    Any good WAR calculation is going to adjust for position. Being a good 1B just isn’t worth as much as being an average SS or catcher. Just as being a good LF isn’t worth as much as being an average CF. Every outfielder can play LF — only the best outfielders can play CF.  Where the nuance/context shows up here is with Cowser’s unique situation. Playing LF in OPACY, with all that ground to cover, is not the same as playing LF at Fenway or Yankee Stadium. Treating Cowser’s “position” as equivalent to Tyler O’Neill’s, for example, is not fair. The degree of difficulty is much, much higher at OPACY’s LF, and so the adjustment seems out of whack for him. That’s the one place where I’d say the bWAR value is “unfair” to Cowser.
    • Hallas
      Can Cowser still win Rookie of The Year over Gil/Wells ?

      By Hallas · Posted

      Wait a second here, the reason he's -0.1 in bb-ref dwar is because they're using drs to track his defensive run value.  He's worth 6.6 runs in defense according to fangraphs, which includes adjustments for position, which would give him a fangraphs defensive war of +0.7.
    • e16bball
      Can Cowser still win Rookie of The Year over Gil/Wells ?

      By e16bball · Posted

      A little funny to have provided descriptions of the hits (“weak” single; “500 foot” HR). FIP doesn’t care about any of that either, so it’s kind of an odd thing to add in an effort to make ERA look bad.  Come in, strike out the first hitter, then give up three 108 MPH rocket doubles off the wall. FIP thinks you were absolutely outstanding, and it’s a shame your pathetic defense and/or sheer bad luck let you down. Next time you’ll (probably) get the outcomes you deserve. They’re both flawed. So is xFIP. So is SIERA. So is RA/9. So is WPA. So is xERA. None of them are perfect measures of how a pitcher’s actual performance was, because there’s way too much context and too many variables for any one metric to really encompass.  But when I’m thinking about awards, for me at least, it ends up having to be about the actual outcomes. I don’t really care what a hitter’s xWOBA is when I’m thinking about MVP, and the same is true for pitchers. Did you get the outs? Did the runs score? That’s the “value” that translates to the scoreboard and, ultimately, to the standings. So I think the B-R side of it is more sensible for awards.  I definitely take into account the types of factors that you (and other pitching fWAR advocates) reference as flaws. So if a guy plays in front of a particular bad defense or had a particularly high percentage of inherited runners score, I’d absolutely adjust my take to incorporate that info. And I also 100% go to Fangraphs first when I’m trying to figure out which pitchers we should acquire (i.e., for forward looking purposes).  But I just can’t bring myself say that my Cy Young is just whichever guy had the best ratio of Ks to BBs to HRs over a threshold number of innings. As @Frobby said, it just distills out too much of what actually happened.
    • Moose Milligan
      Looks like the Detroit Tigers (Update: O's play KC in 1st round of playoffs)

      By Moose Milligan · Posted

      We were all a lot younger in 2005.  No one wanted to believe Canseco cause he’s a smarmy guy. Like I said, he was the only one telling the truth. It wasn’t a leap of faith to see McGwire up there and Sosa up there and think “yeah, those guys were juicing” but then suddenly look at Raffy and think he was completely innocent.  It’s a sad story. The guy should be in Hall of Fame yet 500 homers and 3,000 hits are gone like a fart in the wind cause his legacy is wagging his finger and thinking he couldn’t get caught.  Don’t fly too close to the sun.  
    • Billy F-Face3
      Os vs KC in WC round

      By Billy F-Face3 · Posted

      I think if we get the fun sprinkler loving Gunnar that was in the dugout yesterday, I don’t think we have to worry about him pressing. He seemed loose and feeling good with the other guys he was with, like Kremer.

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...