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On 11/27/2016 at 0:47 PM, Camden_yardbird said:

Replace Flaherty.  I wouldn't mind see a new face there.  I love his versatility but I want to see more offense.  I would be willing to see what Philip Evans could do.

 

With so many bullpen spots settled, I don't see a reliever lasting the season.

If the player had Ryan's plus glove and a decent bat, then they would be an everyday player.

I think Ryan is very valuable for what he can do for the club.

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For Dan. Rule 5 picks start at 9 am and run until 11 am.

Now, there have obviously been several high profile trades and signings, none of which were done by the Orioles. This, despite them consistently being "in the mix" for several of the players. Dan and Buck have mentioned several times during the meetings they want OF help, a veteran catcher, and keep shoring up the bullpen. Now that we know who is off the table, the main question is...

How much will DD cross off his wish list with this draft? With the Red Sox pretty much trying to gather a "throw 3 no hitters a week and we shouldn't lose" group of pitchers, will DD really try that hard in this Rule 5 and what options are their? Best player available, or go after their OF needs and hope it pans out like Joey did last year?

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27 minutes ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

For Dan. Rule 5 picks start at 9 am and run until 11 am.

Now, there have obviously been several high profile trades and signings, none of which were done by the Orioles. This, despite them consistently being "in the mix" for several of the players. Dan and Buck have mentioned several times during the meetings they want OF help, a veteran catcher, and keep shoring up the bullpen. Now that we know who is off the table, the main question is...

How much will DD cross off his wish list with this draft? With the Red Sox pretty much trying to gather a "throw 3 no hitters a week and we shouldn't lose" group of pitchers, will DD really try that hard in this Rule 5 and what options are their? Best player available, or go after their OF needs and hope it pans out like Joey did last year?

Joey Rickard is not very good. For a team that is trying to "go for it" i hate the amount of stock that the front office puts in the rule 5 draft. 

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16 minutes ago, andrewochs615 said:

Joey Rickard is not very good. For a team that is trying to "go for it" i hate the amount of stock that the front office puts in the rule 5 draft. 

I would argue that it has supported our weak farm system quite well.

The only Rule 5 guy that I disagreed with keeping was Garcia.

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7 minutes ago, 25 Nuggets said:

I would argue that it has supported our weak farm system quite well.

The only Rule 5 guy that I disagreed with keeping was Garcia.

That's funny, the only one worthwhile besides Joey IMO. He has upside if he can develop another pitch.

I would have kept Logan over Garcia though due to usability that season, just my two cents.

Supported our farm system? What does that mean? We have gotten nothing of any significance. How does that support our farm system?

Completely agree with Andrew. Waste of time. Feel free to grab a player because it only costs $25k but...stop forcing it.

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2 minutes ago, Rene88 said:

That's funny, the only one worthwhile besides Joey IMO. He has upside if he can develop another pitch.

I would have kept Logan over Garcia though due to usability that season, just my two cents.

Supported our farm system? What does that mean? We have gotten nothing of any significance. How does that support our farm system?

Completely agree with Andrew. Waste of time. Feel free to grab a player because it only costs $25k but...stop forcing it.

I agree regarding keeping Verrett over Garcia.  His 2015 season ended up being fairly useful.  Keeping Garcia not to pitch hurt the 25-man roster and I don't think he's going to amount to anything.

As far as the rest, we just have a different opinion of what value Ryan Flaherty and TJ McFarland provided the ball club.

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Just now, 25 Nuggets said:

I agree regarding keeping Verrett over Garcia.  His 2015 season ended up being fairly useful.  Keeping Garcia not to pitch hurt the 25-man roster and I don't think he's going to amount to anything.

As far as the rest, we just have a different opinion of what value Ryan Flaherty and TJ McFarland provided the ball club.

Flash can't hit a lick, but great flexibility and d. No way you spin it though, neither brought any significant value.

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1 minute ago, Rene88 said:

Flash can't hit a lick, but great flexibility and d. No way you spin it though, neither brought any significant value.

Well we're talking about depth on the 25-man for both.  McFarland was above replacement his first two seasons, and Flaherty was significantly above replacement his 2nd-3rd seasons.  We get a one-win player for two years in the Rule 5 draft to replace, say Nolan Reimold and I'll be happy.

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16 minutes ago, 25 Nuggets said:

Well we're talking about depth on the 25-man for both.  McFarland was above replacement his first two seasons, and Flaherty was significantly above replacement his 2nd-3rd seasons.  We get a one-win player for two years in the Rule 5 draft to replace, say Nolan Reimold and I'll be happy.

And that couldn't be found elsewhere and with more roster flexibility?

 

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Rickard was the best Rule V pick we've had in the last fifteen years IMO because he was able to contribute to the major league team immediately and has the upside of at least a platoon outfielder. You can't say that about any of the other recent guys.  

Flaherty is a utility player with a career WAR of 1.5 through five seasons.  

MacFarland is at best a back end bullpen piece/mop up guy with a career WAR of 0.5 through parts of four seasons. 

Jason Garcia was a pitcher we selected coming off of a mediocre year in Single A.  He's not good.  Never was good.      

A team that plans to be competitive shouldn't be wasting roster spots IMO.  So unless there is another Rickard type out there I rather not keep a Rule V pick.  That doesn't mean we shouldn't draft one.  

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1 hour ago, Rene88 said:

Breaking news (not joking), we are trying to trade up in the draft tomorrow LOL

 

Here is a link to some potential picks:

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/rule-5-draft-expanded-preview/#LUlCzKBMzAPmAlSM.97

Some names that interest me:

Phillip Evans, a 24 y/o Infielder from Mets system: .335, .374, .485 in the Eastern League.  Likely a better version of Ryan Flaherty.  I expect him to be one of the top overall picks though.  

Zach Weiss, a 24 y/o RHP (reliever) from the Reds system: 2.42 ERA, 68 K's and 14 walks in 52 IP in Double A in 2015.  Didn't pitch last year due to injury.  Plus fastball and breaking ball pre-injury.  Not sure what he's going to look like now.    

Both of those guys could probably come in and contribute immediately.   

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