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Orioles Claim OF Adam Brett Walker (Claimed by Atlanta Braves)


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1 hour ago, dan-O said:

That's a pretty hot take right there. You could at least flip Walker for a low-A pitcher or something before DFA'ing him. Absolutely would have DFA'd MacFarland before Adam Brett Walker though. 

DFA doesn't mean released.  If a claim is filed, there is still some time to work out a trade.  If no claim is filed, the player can be outrighted to Norfolk.

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3 hours ago, weams said:

That ZIPs projection is both optimistic and unplayable. He's 80% of Chris Carter and Carter is below average. He's Jai Miller, remember him? He'll go to Norfolk and slash .202/.270/.400 and strike out 95 times in 211 PAs.

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26 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

That ZIPs projection is both optimistic and unplayable. He's 80% of Chris Carter and Carter is below average. He's Jai Miller, remember him? He'll go to Norfolk and slash .202/.270/.400 and strike out 95 times in 211 PAs.

Blast from the past.  Last I heard he went to play football for Alabama.  Is he still there?

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28 minutes ago, dan-O said:

I understand that. I'm simply saying I'd rather risk TJ than Walker.

McFarland is not a good pitcher and has very little chance of making the team. If all of these guys have to go through wavers to be sent to Norfolk isn't the outcome that same.

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1 minute ago, Roll Tide said:

McFarland is not a good pitcher and has very little chance of making the team. If all of these guys have to go through wavers to be sent to Norfolk isn't the outcome that same.

While I agree that he isn't very good I do think he has a much greater chance of logging time in at the major league level.

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2 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

That ZIPs projection is both optimistic and unplayable. He's 80% of Chris Carter and Carter is below average. He's Jai Miller, remember him? He'll go to Norfolk and slash .202/.270/.400 and strike out 95 times in 211 PAs.

And then play defensive back at age 32 for a college football team. The Crimson Tide. They call him deacon blues. Tremendous athlete.  

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I don't know that this is relevant to anything, but when looking up Walker I noticed he had a teammate in Rochester named Daniel Palka.  Palka only played 54 games to Walker's 132, but they were the same player:


Rk    Name                  G    PA    AB    R    H    2B    3B    HR    RBI    SB    CS    BB    SO    BA    OBP    SLG    OPS ▾    TB    GDP    HBP    SH    SF    IBB



	9    Adam Walker      132    531    478    61    116    22    5    27    75    7    4    44    202    0.243    0.305    0.479    0.784    229    9    2    0    7    2



	10a    Palka Scaled   129    531    483    74    112    29    0    31    60    5    2    43    205    0.232    0.296    0.483    0.779    233    2    2    0    2    2





	10    Daniel Palka*    54    223    203    31    47    12    0    13    25    2    1    18    86    0.232    0.296    0.483    0.779    98    1    1    0    1    1







	
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4 hours ago, weams said:

And then play defensive back at age 32 for a college football team. The Crimson Tide. They call him deacon blues. Tremendous athlete.  

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And I want a name when I lose

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9 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

McFarland is not a good pitcher and has very little chance of making the team. If all of these guys have to go through wavers to be sent to Norfolk isn't the outcome that same.

Call me crazy but I saw an uptick in Mac's stuff in ST. I think he was going to have a big year if we would have just sent him to AAA and let him make 20 starts. Instead we shuffled him around at the beginning of the year and he got hurt. Never seemed to be healthy. 

Pena is also someone to consider to DFA. Out of options. Joseph is the favorite to be the backup. 

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Pena is also someone to consider to DFA. Out of options. Joseph is the favorite to be the backup. 

 

 

13 minutes ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

If Pena hits in Spring Training the way he has in the Winter League (.188), he will DFA himself...

 

I hope Pena does hit! I'd send optionable Caleb down to keep him. He looks like a damn good catcher imo. In charge of the game.

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27 minutes ago, scOtt said:

 

 

I hope Pena does hit! I'd send optionable Caleb down to keep him. He looks like a damn good catcher imo. In charge of the game.

 

Whoever you send down creates a log jam somewhere. I'm really thinking the Orioles hope Pena and Joseph both do extremely well and they can flip one for something (obviously not much, but something.)

Back on topic...I'm unsure of this. If A.B.W. clears waivers and the Orioles send him to Norfolk, can they still bring him to the MLB camp as a non-roster invitee?

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5 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Call me crazy but I saw an uptick in Mac's stuff in ST. I think he was going to have a big year if we would have just sent him to AAA and let him make 20 starts. Instead we shuffled him around at the beginning of the year and he got hurt. Never seemed to be healthy. 

Pena is also someone to consider to DFA. Out of options. Joseph is the favorite to be the backup. 

I just don't see how McFarland makes the crowded pen and I believe he's out of options. With him being left handed and breathing someone will place a claim.

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