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46 minutes ago, 25 Nuggets said:

Instant reaction Class of 2018 prediction:

Chipper Jones, Trevor Hoffman, Vlad Guerrero.

Jim Thome and Edgar Martinez just miss.

Vlad gets in easy next year.  I think Hoffman just sneaks in.  Chipper will be first ballot.  Thome likely will be too - over 600 career home runs and never connected to steroids, although he may be close to the 75 percent threshold.  So that's four guys for 2018.  

2019:  Rivera, Bonds, Clemens

2020: Jeter

2021: Mussina, Schilling

Mussina could sneak in 2020, but I don't see voters allowing Jeter to have to share the spotlight. Edgar Martinez's last year on the ballot will be 2019, unless I am mistaken.  I think he just misses but maybe he sneaks in with the 2019 class.  Pretty weak group of first ballot guys after next year.  Rivera, Jeter, then who else really has a case?  Omar Visquel?  Shame Johan Santana's career was cut short because he was on his way. 

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How the hell is Vlad not in? Dude is a freaking shoe in. Also, I think Tim Raines goes in as an Expo. Schilling won't get in due to no one in the media liking him and Mussina should be in at this point. Chipper is in, no question. Jim Thome was 5 votes away from getting in this year, should be in next year. 

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4 hours ago, ChuckS said:

Pretty weak group of first ballot guys after next year.  Rivera, Jeter, then who else really has a case?  Omar Visquel?  Shame Johan Santana's career was cut short because he was on his way. 

2019 - Lance Berkman, Roy Halladay, Todd Helton

2020 - Bobby Abreu, Jason Giambi

2021 - Tim Hudson, Torii Hunter

Some marginal cases... though If I could pick one guy from that list it would be Roy Halladay.  I believe Halladay is Hall of Fame worthy.

It should be noted that in addition to Jones and Thome next year, Scott Rolen and Andruw Jones will be up for election.  I fear they will both be one-and-done and they should not be.

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3 hours ago, MDtransplant757 said:

How the hell is Vlad not in? Dude is a freaking shoe in. Also, I think Tim Raines goes in as an Expo. Schilling won't get in due to no one in the media liking him and Mussina should be in at this point. Chipper is in, no question. Jim Thome was 5 votes away from getting in this year, should be in next year. 

I agree with that. If he would have kept off social media and merely been a failed video game developer, he probably would have been fine. But nope.

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6 hours ago, 25 Nuggets said:

2019 - Lance Berkman, Roy Halladay, Todd Helton

2020 - Bobby Abreu, Jason Giambi

2021 - Tim Hudson, Torii Hunter

Some marginal cases... though If I could pick one guy from that list it would be Roy Halladay.  I believe Halladay is Hall of Fame worthy.

It should be noted that in addition to Jones and Thome next year, Scott Rolen and Andruw Jones will be up for election.  I fear they will both be one-and-done and they should not be.

Make case for Torii Hunter that excludes Fred Lynn, Jim Wynn, Cesar Cedeno, Johnny Damon, Bernie Williams, Brett Butler, and Ellis Burks. Not sure I could.  By JAWS Hunter is the 32nd-best CFer ever and there are 18 in the Hall.

Andruw Jones, Kenny Lofton, and Carlos Beltran are a full tier above my previous list.

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12 hours ago, ChuckS said:

Vlad gets in easy next year.  I think Hoffman just sneaks in.  Chipper will be first ballot.  Thome likely will be too - over 600 career home runs and never connected to steroids, although he may be close to the 75 percent threshold.  So that's four guys for 2018.  

2019:  Rivera, Bonds, Clemens

2020: Jeter

2021: Mussina, Schilling

Mussina could sneak in 2020, but I don't see voters allowing Jeter to have to share the spotlight.   Edgar Martinez's last year on the ballot will be 2019, unless I am mistaken.  I think he just misses but maybe he sneaks in with the 2019 class.  Pretty weak group of first ballot guys after next year.  Rivera, Jeter, then who else really has a case?  Omar Visquel?  Shame Johan Santana's career was cut short because he was on his way. 

Do you really think the voters think about things like who will "share the spotlight?"    I don't see that.     Most of the "inner circle" hall of famers didn't go in alone.

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1 minute ago, Frobby said:

Do you really think the voters think about things like who will "share the spotlight?"    I don't see that.     Most of the "inner circle" hall of famers didn't go in alone.

Ballots will be public by then.

Voter X, why did you vote for Mussina from 2015-2019 and not this year?

I didn't think he was worthy to be inducted with Jeter.

 

Yea, I don't see that happening.

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On 1/4/2017 at 0:40 PM, Number5 said:

Was Bagwell ever caught?  IIRC, suspicions about Bagwell were pretty much about his being friends and teammates with Ken Caminiti.

I don't remember the details, but there were comments from Caminiti that made it obvious that Bagwell was a user - and at the tag end of his career, he looked like he lost a good 40 lbs of muscle.  But he was a very popular guy, and the writers loved him.  So he gets in while guys like Palmeiro and McGwire don't get serious consideration.  Personally, I would have voted for Vlad over Bagwell.  I think he was a more feared hitter and about equal offensively to Bagwell.  I ageed with the other choices.    

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7 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Ballots will be public by then.

Voter X, why did you vote for Mussina from 2015-2019 and not this year?

I didn't think he was worthy to be inducted with Jeter.

 

Yea, I don't see that happening.

I'm sure there are many arbitrary reasons why x player doesn't get voted in one year but then does the next or has a huge jump in percentage.  Otherwise, you would not see so much fluctuation since for the most part it's the same voters.  

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13 hours ago, 25 Nuggets said:

Also - Jorge Posada joins the growing list of recent one-and-done candidates with a Hall of Fame case.

This list includes Will Clark, Carlos Delgado, Jim Edmonds, Kenny Lofton, Lou Whitaker and Bernie Williams.

I think all those guys should be in except the 2 Yankees guys and Delgado. 

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10 hours ago, MDtransplant757 said:

How the hell is Vlad not in? Dude is a freaking shoe in. Also, I think Tim Raines goes in as an Expo. Schilling won't get in due to no one in the media liking him and Mussina should be in at this point. Chipper is in, no question. Jim Thome was 5 votes away from getting in this year, should be in next year. 

That's impressive for Thome since he wasn't even on the ballot. :P

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