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9 hours ago, FanSince88 said:

I can't tell you how much schadenfreude it gives me that Encarnacion might think the freaking Indians give him a better shot to get a ring than the Jays.

Some players really dont like playing in Canada and going through customs all the time.

Not saying that this is the case, and if it was, he most likely will never admit it. But, others have said its bad enough, when you play them as visitors,

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3 minutes ago, Babypowder said:

Would have been on board with that signing. If the O's give Trumbo anything significant and weren't in on Edwin I'll be upset. Of course, that's exactly what I expect to happen.

Trumbo for 4/50+ was already stupid, now it would look exceptionally stupid.

How do we know what the Orioles offer to Edwin was?

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Just now, Redskins Rick said:

How do we know what the Orioles offer to Edwin was?

As I said, IF the Orioles weren't in in him I will be upset. I haven't heard or read they were in on him at all.

But at that price you can't give Trumbo the deal they were talking about previously. Trumbo isn't even in the same stratosphere as Edwin.

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2 minutes ago, Babypowder said:

As I said, IF the Orioles weren't in in him I will be upset. I haven't heard or read they were in on him at all.

But at that price you can't give Trumbo the deal they were talking about previously. Trumbo isn't even in the same stratosphere as Edwin.

You are very right.

At this point, kinda of hard to know what the Orioles are doing, they say the offer is pulled off the table, and yet, it appears that they are still talking to the Player/Agent.

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31 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I think the odds that we sign Trumbo just went way up.   It's pretty clear now that Trumbo's initial demands were unrealistic and that the Orioles' offer was in the ballpark of what he'll ultimately get.

Hopefully not from the O's. 50+ million for Trumbo is already a mistake. When Encarnacion only gets 65, it would just look silly.

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If I'm DD I'm lowering my offer to Trumbo.  4/44 or maybe 4/48.  Final offer, take it or leave it.  And it wouldn't upset me if he left it, because I'd just sign Alvarez to split time at DH with Mancini.  Mancini can also spell Davis at 1B.  Then they need to find that magical RFer.

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11 minutes ago, Babypowder said:

Hopefully not from the O's. 50+ million for Trumbo is already a mistake. When Encarnacion only gets 65, it would just look silly.

You can't just look at the total dollars, when the number of years is different.   4/$52 mm is a lot less than 3/$60 mm with a $5 mm buyout if the Indians don't option for a 4th year.      It's not just $52 mm vs. $60 mm.   (Note: the previous reports on Trumbo said $52-56 mm.   I'm using the lower number, but the point holds either way.)

I don't particularly want Trumbo back, but I wouldn't call the Orioles' offer "silly" money.

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1 hour ago, Frobby said:

I think the odds that we sign Trumbo just went way up.   It's pretty clear now that Trumbo's initial demands were unrealistic and that the Orioles' offer was in the ballpark of what he'll ultimately get.

Maybe Texas will panic now. Come on Rangers, save us from ourselves 

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7 hours ago, 25 Nuggets said:

...on the flip side, Cleveland is not only getting one of the best hitters in the American League in Encarnacion, ...

He was 10th in the AL in OPS+.  But he turns 34 in a couple weeks, his OPS fell 40 points last year, and he saw his K rate go up pretty significantly.  Most guys like Encarnacion don't age like Nelson Cruz, they age like Jeromy Burnitz or Jay Buhner or Danny Tartabull.  Combined those three were worth maybe five wins from age 34-on.

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