vs. TIGERS, 5/17

[Natty]

Ok they just explained it has to go over the yellow line to be a HR.

[Mendoza Line]

6 minutes ago, TheWall said:

He's excellent over there. What does the top dWAR 1B have right now?

I'm not very good at navigating the bbREF site for these things.  I can't seem to find the ranking for the current year defensively by position.

[Mendoza Line]

3 minutes ago, SteveA said:

I suspect (but don't know) that the stat does not adequately take into account a first baseman's abillity to scoop throws from infielders.   I believe that ability is MORE important than his defensive range, as he will have more balls thrown to him by infielders than he will have hit to him by batters in most games.  And I think beyond that, he will have a higher percentage that could go either way (in other words, there will be more infield throws where his ability matters than ground balls; a fairly high % of ground balls hit to him in a game will either be ones that 1Bmen make 90% of the time or ones that 1Bmen miss 90% of the time.  But a higher % of throws will be in the margins where the ability matters).   So if the stat doesn't factor that ability as well over 50% of the defensive value, I think it is probably flawed.

All opinion/guesswork on my part... I don't know enough about the stats used in dWAR to say for sure.

I think that sounds about right.  I feel defensive WAR it is a very subjective measure. oWAR seems more reliable.

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Mendoza Line said:

I'm not very good at navigating the bbREF site for these things.  I can't seem to find the ranking for the current year defensively by position.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2017-specialpos_1b-fielding.shtml

[TheWall]

1 minute ago, Mendoza Line said:

I'm not very good at navigating the bbREF site for these things.  I can't seem to find the ranking for the current year defensively by position.

Yeah, I was just looking. I can only find the overall leaders and obviously no 1B is going to be on that.

[Mendoza Line]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2016-specialpos_1b-fielding.shtml

Found that...where is dWAR for that page?  Maybe I'm blind...I can't find it on there.

[SteveA]

Good play Adam.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Mendoza Line said:

Found that...where is dWAR for that page?  Maybe I'm blind...I can't find it on there.

dWAR isn't there.

Everything else is there.

Isn't everything better than a compiled stat?

[25 Nuggets]

7 minutes ago, TheWall said:

He's excellent over there. What does the top dWAR 1B have right now?

Don't know, but here are the scores of some other notables:

• 0.2 Paul Goldschmidt
• 0.2 Joey Votto
• 0.0 Matt Carpenter
• -0.0 Mitch Moreland
• -0.1 Freddie Freeman
• -0.1 Logan Morrison
• -0.2 Eric Hosmer
• -0.2 Anthony Rizzo
• -0.2 Justin Smoak
• -0.3 Ryan Zimmerman
• -0.4 Yuli Gurriel
• -0.4 Mark Reynolds
• -0.6 Wil Myers

First base gets a fairly bad positional penalty so it's hard to have a positive dWAR as one.

[Natty]

Ubaldo blows the lead...

[Chavez Ravine]

Ubaldo came out of the groove.

[Norfolk orioles]

Is it ok to hate on Jiminez now?

 

Asking for a friend.

 

We all knew this was coming because it's UBALDO.

[weams]

That's the way we do it. 

[Can_of_corn]

And the O's are behind.

Thanks Ubaldo!

[spiritof66]

Way to shut 'em down. To the bullpen.