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Just a couple of things to discuss...

I'm awaiting 'verification' from Tim Beckham's HS coach Jamie Cassady, concerning Tim's listed height/weight of 6' 2-191. The reason for the call is because Baseball America listed TBeck at 6'-188 in their big 'Top 200' report.

Why is this important? Well, a player's physical projections are tied into his athleticism as well as physical dimensions; height/weight/body type, etc. A 6'2 TBeck is has more projection, especially power, than a 6' even TBeck does.

I don't mean to appear to over-simplify the point, but in my view there is a slight difference in how I project him. I put a call in to BA and await their word on this. I did speak to the awesome staff at Perfect Game, which ESPN has come to an agreement with to be it's leading authority on amateur baseball, and they said they listed TB at 6'2-191 because it was listed in the guide as such at a few showcases.

Anyway, it's just a small thing, but I thought some here may want to know. :)

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Why didn't you just call his mother?;)

"Hello?"

"Hi, Mrs. Beckham?"

"Yes, can I help you?"

"Yes ma'am, my name is Greg Pappas, a big fan of your son Tim. Forgive the intrusion, but could you tell me with any certainty how tall your son is?"

"My son's height and weight and every other imaginable measurement has been taken I'm sure... isn't he listed at all the major baseball sites?"

"Yes ma'am, most have him at 6'2-191, however one of the leading amateur baseball sites listed him at merely 6'. So I was a bit concerned."

"Merely? What do you mean 'merely'? What do mean by 'concerned'? You better merely be concerned about yourself, talking about my baby like that... if I ever see you arou..!"

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Just a couple of things to discuss...

I'm awaiting 'verification' from Tim Beckham's HS coach Jamie Cassady, concerning Tim's listed height/weight of 6' 2-191. The reason for the call is because Baseball America listed TBeck at 6'-188 in their big 'Top 200' report.

Why is this important? Well, a player's physical projections are tied into his athleticism as well as physical dimensions; height/weight/body type, etc. A 6'2 TBeck is has more projection, especially power, than a 6' even TBeck does.

I don't mean to appear to over-simplify the point, but in my view there is a slight difference in how I project him. I put a call in to BA and await there word on this. I did speak to the awesome staff at Perfect Game, which ESPN has come to an agreement with to be it's leading authority on amateur baseball, and they said they listed TB at 6'2-191 because it was listed in the guide as such at a few showcases.

Anyway, it's just a small thing, but I thought some here may want to know. :)

Good points on Tim Beckham. This is a similar reason why so many don't think Gordon Beckham's power projects in pro ball. Gordon Beckham is listed at 6'0" 188 lbs. There are other issues with G-Beck as well, but his height has also been mentioned.

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Good points on Tim Beckham. This is a similar reason why so many don't think Gordon Beckham's power projects in pro ball. Gordon Beckham is listed at 6'0" 188 lbs. There are other issues with G-Beck as well, but his height has also been mentioned.

Yeah, and for those posters who will bring up players listed at 6' or shorter with power (Tejada being one), I am aware that there are innumerable players in history who were no taller than 6'. :)

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Just a couple of things to discuss...

I'm awaiting 'verification' from Tim Beckham's HS coach Jamie Cassady, concerning Tim's listed height/weight of 6' 2-191. The reason for the call is because Baseball America listed TBeck at 6'-188 in their big 'Top 200' report.

Why is this important? Well, a player's physical projections are tied into his athleticism as well as physical dimensions; height/weight/body type, etc. A 6'2 TBeck is has more projection, especially power, than a 6' even TBeck does.

I don't mean to appear to over-simplify the point, but in my view there is a slight difference in how I project him. I put a call in to BA and await their word on this. I did speak to the awesome staff at Perfect Game, which ESPN has come to an agreement with to be it's leading authority on amateur baseball, and they said they listed TB at 6'2-191 because it was listed in the guide as such at a few showcases.

Anyway, it's just a small thing, but I thought some here may want to know. :)

Thanks for looking into this, Greg. Do you feel like he has filled out his frame already? I ask because even if he were 6'0", can't we expect the high school kid to add some size over the next four seasons? I'm asking because maybe in speaking with his coach or some of the other industry guys you've heard something I haven't.

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Good points on Tim Beckham. This is a similar reason why so many don't think Gordon Beckham's power projects in pro ball. Gordon Beckham is listed at 6'0" 188 lbs. There are other issues with G-Beck as well, but his height has also been mentioned.

But Gordon is much older and, I believe, closer to filled-out in his frame.

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From the video I've see of G. Beckham he looks more on the slight side. I think he has room to put on some more muscle if he so chooses.

Again, the question was is he "closer to filled-out" than Tim is. I think it's pretty safe to say "yes".

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Thanks for looking into this, Greg. Do you feel like he has filled out his frame already? I ask because even if he were 6'0", can't we expect the high school kid to add some size over the next four seasons? I'm asking because maybe in speaking with his coach or some of the other industry guys you've heard something I haven't.

Thanks. I haven't received a definitive answer as yet, but to your question...nearly every H.S. kid will 'fill out' or grow a bit as he matures. So, it's hard to say if Beckham will be a 6' -210 SS or a 6' 3 -195 one. I think I'm looking a bit too much into it. :)

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