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6 minutes ago, foxfield said:

Why?  Those moves would be purely looking towards 2018. We seem to have some pretty realistic pieces for the outfield already. Know what we don't have?  Is a SS.   You may not like Beckham and that is fine, though I disagree. But it will NOT be Hardy. 

One of the issues Beckham had with Tampa was them moving him off short to second base.  I'm sure he would just love getting moved to left field.

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4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

One of the issues Beckham had with Tampa was them moving him off short to second base.  I'm sure he would just love getting moved to left field.

Well it would test the theory that he can be moody and disruptive...so there is that too. :) 

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31 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

One of the issues Beckham had with Tampa was them moving him off short to second base.  I'm sure he would just love getting moved to left field.

Yea, if he's gonna throw a tantrum when his manager moves him from his preferred position to help the team, he is not the kind of guy we want here.  One of the biggest reasons we are even sniffing a WC spot right now is the team chemistry IMO.  And I'd like to think that the influence of leaders like Adam Jones and Buck would stop him from throwing a bi**h fit.

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5 minutes ago, joelala said:

Yea, if he's gonna throw a tantrum when his manager moves him from his preferred position to help the team, he is not the kind of guy we want here.  One of the biggest reasons we are even sniffing a WC spot right now is the team chemistry IMO.  And I'd like to think that the influence of leaders like Adam Jones and Buck would stop him from throwing a bi**h fit.

How did we suddenly get to him throwing a tantrum?

Do you think Adam would be just fine with moving to right field?

Do you think Manny wouldn't rather be playing short stop?

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5 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

How did we suddenly get to him throwing a tantrum?

Do you think Adam would be just fine with moving to right field?

Do you think Manny wouldn't rather be playing short stop?

Ok fine, semantically, tantrum may be a bit strong of a word, and I admittedly was using it for effect.

And I think Adam would be upset, sure, but I don't think he'd ever let it seep into his on-field demeanor.  He's too brilliant a leader for that.

As for Manny, I have no idea at this point to be honest.  How much would a move to SS increase his market value?  And with his injury history, has he realized that 3b is actually the best place for him to play?  Does he like the fact that he's the best defensive third baseman in the game?  

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In reply to Norfolk_Orioles, go back and check the transactions. JJ signed a 4-year extension 2 years ago for 40+ million dollars. He is under control for two more years. We have kept Ubaldo in the pitching rotation on and off the last two years because he was a 10+ million dollar a year player. So how does that differ with JJ? I know that JJ has been terrible this year. He definitely has not been a 10+ million doillar a year starting shortstop. You all seem to be missing the point that a starter doesn't get benched because of an injury. Wally Pipp didn't get Gehrig's job because of an injury. Pipp got the job because Gehrig realized he could no longer perform and he gave up his job.

You know, if JJ got his job back, he just might surprise y'all and turn around and publically give it up to Beckham. Just saying he has not been treated straight up. 

And I'm sure that Buck knows that.

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6 minutes ago, gcates9898 said:

In reply to Norfolk_Orioles, go back and check the transactions. JJ signed a 4-year extension 2 years ago for 40+ million dollars. He is under control for two more years. We have kept Ubaldo in the pitching rotation on and off the last two years because he was a 10+ million dollar a year player. So how does that differ with JJ? I know that JJ has been terrible this year. He definitely has not been a 10+ million doillar a year starting shortstop. You all seem to be missing the point that a starter doesn't get benched because of an injury. Wally Pipp didn't get Gehrig's job because of an injury. Pipp got the job because Gehrig realized he could no longer perform and he gave up his job.

You know, if JJ got his job back, he just might surprise y'all and turn around and publically give it up to Beckham. Just saying he has not been treated straight up. 

And I'm sure that Buck knows that.

Politely you are just wrong on so many things. JJ's contract will expire at the end of this season. There was an option that could have kicked in with about 600 ABs but he won't make it. He is gone after this year without another contract. He has not held a press conference to transfer HIS job to Beckham, but he has supported him. I really like JJ Hardy and will miss him. He has been treated very well. 

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