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I'd like us to let Ubaldo and Miley go. I would bring back Tillman on a cheap one year deal if possible, I think there is a chance he rebounds. Then I would move Castro to the rotation and sign one of Cobb/Darvish/Lynn. I think those are realistic moves and actually seems like a pretty good rotation to me:

 

Cobb

Bundy

Gausman

Tillman

Castro

 

All righties though, maybe if we can't bring Tillman back sign a decent lefty starter, not sure who without looking at free agents and there are always possible trades available. Don't really love any in-house options for another spot though right now.

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3 minutes ago, scbalt52 said:

I'd like us to let Ubaldo and Miley go. I would bring back Tillman on a cheap one year deal if possible, I think there is a chance he rebounds. Then I would move Castro to the rotation and sign one of Cobb/Darvish/Lynn. I think those are realistic moves and actually seems like a pretty good rotation to me:

 

Cobb

Bundy

Gausman

Tillman

Castro

 

All righties though, maybe if we can't bring Tillman back sign a decent lefty starter, not sure who without looking at free agents and there are always possible trades available. Don't really love any in-house options for another spot though right now.

Castro might throw about 90 innings this year. That would be the most in his career. Not sure if he would have an innings limit in 2018.

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On 9/11/2017 at 10:09 PM, Il BuonO said:

You seem pretty sure. Bundy, Gausman and Castro right now. No on the option for Miley?

Of course no on the option for Miley.   He's not worth that money.

Miley, or Tillman, could be brought back for a lot less.   I wouldn't be in favor of bringing back Miley at all, but it wouldn't shocke me if we did.   But not for the option $s.

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18 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

...and the idea of bringing back Tillman makes me sick to my stomach. Cut the dead weight. There's no reason we need to limit our search for answers for under performing Oriole retreads. 

Exactly.   There are underperforming retreads on all 30 teams in teh majors.   Why narrow down that pool to just a subset?

[There is both sarcasm and truth in that comment, I am not sure what the percentage mixture is].

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3 hours ago, scbalt52 said:

I'd like us to let Ubaldo and Miley go. I would bring back Tillman on a cheap one year deal if possible, I think there is a chance he rebounds. Then I would move Castro to the rotation and sign one of Cobb/Darvish/Lynn. I think those are realistic moves and actually seems like a pretty good rotation to me:

 

Cobb

Bundy

Gausman

Tillman

Castro

 

All righties though, maybe if we can't bring Tillman back sign a decent lefty starter, not sure who without looking at free agents and there are always possible trades available. Don't really love any in-house options for another spot though right now.

I really don't want Tillman back. I think i'd rather watch someone from 2A and 3A pitch than washed up pitchers that DD picks up. 

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20 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Exactly.   There are underperforming retreads on all 30 teams in teh majors.   Why narrow down that pool to just a subset?

[There is both sarcasm and truth in that comment, I am not sure what the percentage mixture is].

If Tillman is back, I expect him to be among several candidates for the open rotation positions.    He'd have to earn it, not have it handed to him, and his contract should reflect that in some fashion.

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14 hours ago, SteveA said:

Exactly.   There are underperforming retreads on all 30 teams in teh majors.   Why narrow down that pool to just a subset?

[There is both sarcasm and truth in that comment, I am not sure what the percentage mixture is].

I'd say 50 / 50. ;)

I guess the point I was trying to make is that too often posters on this message board seem to limit their suggestions for improvement to current and former Orioles. It makes me wonder if some of them even watch other games. There's a big pool of players out there and we don't need to resign someone just because we're "familiar" with them. It's like romanticizing an ex girlfriend and forgetting all her flaws and why you broke up with her in the first place. 

Also, per my other comment I completely understand that whole concept of not wanting to pay for a starting pitcher. For example, I love Lance Lynn and think he's an extremely underrated pitcher, but after the season he's had this year someone is going to give him a ridiculous long term deal, and that someone shouldn't be us. That's why I feel we need to address our pitching needs via trade. Britton should be able to command a fairly young, dependable starting pitcher. That's the move that should be made in the off season. We address our biggest need and also probably save some money to put towards the Manny contract offer. 

Also, it's not a matter of whether or not you're comfortable with Bundy and Gausman. Those two are in our rotation next season whether you like it or not. With no minor league depth and our unwillingness to tank we don't have the luxury of completely blowing up our starting pitching. I personally think if you add a "good" pitcher to the mix it will take pressure off of both of them and they will thrive. 

Full disclosure, I've been playing fantasy baseball for 20+ years so that's forced me to dig a bit deeper into the numbers / players on other teams. If I didn't have that to fall back on I'd probably be suggesting we resign Tillman, trade for Tillman, and see if Frank Robinson has anything left in the tank too. 

 

 

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