2018 Mike Wright

[Redskins Rick]

2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

How many times did we hear that about Arrieta?   I agree Wright’s been a bit of a head case, but sometimes guys get it together.  

You are very right. (No pun intended).

But, he is running out of chances.

I think the most reasonable expectation, if he can figure it out, long men in the pen, emergency starter.

[weams]

45 minutes ago, NCRaven said:

This is exactly my point.  Every team has trouble developing pitching, even the ones that are "good" at it.  Why?

Baseball is hard.  Pitching is hard and causes tremendous wear and tear on the shoulder and elbow joints.  Hitting is just plain hard.  And, fielding isn't much easier.  The fans for every team complain when a prospect fails to develop.  It's not just the Orioles.

Baseball is real hard. On 800 guys on the planet are good enough. So what is that a one in a billion talent? 

[Redskins Rick]

Just now, weams said:

Baseball is real hard. On 800 guys on the planet are good enough. So what is that a one in a billion talent? 

There is such a fine line, between being brilliant and sucking up the joint.

[weams]

2 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

There is such a fine line, between being brilliant and sucking up the joint.

Real fine line. A mile or two an hour. A catcher's input. Weather. Stadia.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, weams said:

Real fine line. A mile or two an hour. A catcher's input. Weather. Stadia.

Flat seams, smooth finish.  Smaller strikezone.

[Redskins Rick]

Just now, weams said:

Real fine line. A mile or two an hour. A catcher's input. Weather. Stadia.

Reminds me of the scene from Major Leagues, when the catcher tells the opposing hitting fastball, because the pitcher was being an idiot and wouldnt take the signal for the curve.

[El Gordo]

9 minutes ago, Frobby said:

How many times did we hear that about Arrieta?   I agree Wright’s been a bit of a head case, but sometimes guys get it together.  

Arrieta had the stuff so that if he was left to his diva self he could succeed.  Mike doesn't have the Wright stuff,.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

Reminds me of the scene from Major Leagues, when the catcher tells the opposing hitting fastball, because the pitcher was being an idiot and wouldnt take the signal for the curve.

Odd there was a scene just like that in Bull Durham.

 

[weams]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Flat seams, smooth finish.  Smaller strikezone.

Tight winding. Fat umpire. Umpire show. Shadows. 

[Redskins Rick]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Odd there was a scene just like that in Bull Durham.

 

CoC, thanks, your right as rain, I just rewatched both of those movies last week.

[El Gordo]

9 minutes ago, weams said:

Baseball is real hard. On 800 guys on the planet are good enough. So what is that a one in a billion talent? 

One in 9,541,024.15625

[weams]

1 minute ago, El Gordo said:

Arrieta had the stuff so that if he was left to his diva self he could succeed.  Mike doesn't have the Wright stuff,.

Jake Arrieta did not sniff success until every bit of his smug persona had been knocked to the curb and he learned to throw two MLB plus pitches and an MLB average one. Instead of experimenting with his "seven stories to success" that he learned in Boras camp. 

[weams]

1 minute ago, El Gordo said:

One in 9,541,024.15625

Thank you. I'm a Lumper. 

[Redskins Rick]

3 minutes ago, weams said:

Jake Arrieta did not sniff success until every bit of his smug persona had been knocked to the curb and he learned to throw two MLB plus pitches and an MLB average one. Instead of experimenting with his "seven stories to success" that he learned in Boras camp. 

I don't disagree about his smug persona.

But, he went 6-6 and 10-8, his first two seasons here, so yes, he did have success, just not what he could have had, given his talent.

Oh yeah, not allow to use W-L to discuss a pitcher's worth, he threw a .9 and .7 WAR, which meant he was almost twice as good as a replacement level person.

 

[Redskins Rick]

3 minutes ago, weams said:

Thank you. I'm a Lumper. 

Do they have a 12 step program for that?