Duquette Communication

[Dipper9]

We’ve heard from several ex Orioles that say Duquette and the Orioles never reached out to them when they became free agents, or guys like Schoop and Machado who say there was never any communication or serious attempts to offer them extensions while they were here and younger.  For the longest time I thought this was just bitterness from ex Orioles players, but when so many say the same thing, it leads me to believe there is truth behind it.  

Even with the rebuild and the young talent Duquette has brought in, we need a leader who openly communicates with the players or their agents on matters like this. 

What say you? 

[Roll Tide]

2 minutes ago, Dipper9 said:

We’ve heard from several ex Orioles that say Duquette and the Orioles never reached out to them when they became free agents, or guys like Schoop and Machado who say there was never any communication or serious attempts to offer them extensions while they were here and younger.  For the longest time I thought this was just bitterness from ex Orioles players, but when so many say the same thing, it leads me to believe there is truth behind it.  

Even with the rebuild and the young talent Duquette has brought in, we need a leader who openly communicates with the players or their agents on matters like this. 

What say you? 

I have to agree hopefully this is another Peter Angelos wrong that will be fixed.

[Can_of_corn]

5 minutes ago, Dipper9 said:

We’ve heard from several ex Orioles that say Duquette and the Orioles never reached out to them when they became free agents, or guys like Schoop and Machado who say there was never any communication or serious attempts to offer them extensions while they were here and younger.  For the longest time I thought this was just bitterness from ex Orioles players, but when so many say the same thing, it leads me to believe there is truth behind it.  

Even with the rebuild and the young talent Duquette has brought in, we need a leader who openly communicates with the players or their agents on matters like this. 

What say you? 

I say Dan seems like the type that won't return an agent's call instead of telling them he isn't interested.

[Dipper9]

3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I say Dan seems like the type that won't return an agent's call instead of telling them he isn't interested.

But don’t we want our GM to answer the call? Don’t we want our GM at least asking Manny and Schoop agents what it would take to extend them? It’s sounding more and more like these conversations don’t happen and he just assumes they are not extendable.

[Bird Dog]

2 minutes ago, Dipper9 said:

But don’t we want our GM to answer the call? Don’t we want our GM at least asking Manny and Schoop agents what it would take to extend them? It’s sounding more and more like these conversations don’t happen and he just assumes they are not extendable.

I don't think we can judge anything when Peter is/was in control.

[Finisher]

Don't like how he handled the whole Jones thing.

Find it totally ridiculous we didn't explore extensions with Manny and Schoop. Now, it's likely Manny would've never extended with us but you had years to likely lock up Schoop for probably not a ton of money (he sold off 10% of future earnings so seems likely he'd be open to financial security. He also has brought up us not exploring extension with him).

[now]

3 minutes ago, Finisher said:

Don't like how he handled the whole Jones thing.

Meaning what? Adam seems mostly pissed at the media hounding him. If DD asked Adam if he would approve a trade and Adam declined, what else is there to see here?

[Can_of_corn]

12 minutes ago, Dipper9 said:

But don’t we want our GM to answer the call? Don’t we want our GM at least asking Manny and Schoop agents what it would take to extend them? It’s sounding more and more like these conversations don’t happen and he just assumes they are not extendable.

I think they had a very good idea what it would take to keep Machado and Schoop.

[Chavez Ravine]

1 minute ago, now said:

Meaning what? Adam seems mostly pissed at the media hounding him. If DD asked Adam if he would approve a trade and Adam declined, what else is there to see here?

Plus Adam had dinner with John Angelos in Toronto where presumably the topic of the house demolition came up. Not every player had a sit down with ownership.

[Dipper9]

8 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think they had a very good idea what it would take to keep Machado and Schoop.

I’m not necessarily disagreeing, but isn’t this kinda like not asking the girl to the prom because you think she’ll say no, only to find out afterwards that she really wanted to go with you?

[Finisher]

9 minutes ago, now said:

Meaning what? Adam seems mostly pissed at the media hounding him. If DD asked Adam if he would approve a trade and Adam declined, what else is there to see here?

It doesn't seem like DD ascertained whether Jones would be open to a trade. It seems like DD negotiated a trade with Philly and AFTER THE FACT determined Jones was, in fact, not going to waive his no trade.

Why would you waste your time banging out a deal(s) for a player that isn't going to waive his no trade when you have a half dozen other players who could be moved? Why would you now open up Jones to more scrutiny when a simple verification beforehand would have caused you to not bother hammering out a trade.

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, Dipper9 said:

I’m not necessarily disagreeing, but isn’t this kinda like not asking the girl to the prom because you think she’ll say no, only to find out afterwards that she really wanted to go with you?

No.

I think it is more like not asking her because her best friend told you she is only willing to go with you if you rent her a limo and take her out to dinner at that fancy french bistro in the ritzy side of town.  But she wants to look approachable to the rest of the boys so she says she would have gone if you had asked.

[Chavez Ravine]

8 minutes ago, Dipper9 said:

I’m not necessarily disagreeing, but isn’t this kinda like not asking the girl to the prom because you think she’ll say no, only to find out afterwards that she really wanted to go with you?

 

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

No.

I think it is more like not asking her because her best friend told you she is only willing to go with you if you rent her a limo and take her out to dinner at that fancy french bistro in the ritzy side of town.  But she wants to look approachable to the rest of the boys so she says she would have gone if you had asked.

You guys asked girls to the prom? I was in my room playing Strat-O-Matic.

[now]

2 minutes ago, Chavez Ravine said:

 

You guys asked girls to the prom? I was in my room playing Strat-O-Matic.

#metoo #S-O-M

[now]

8 minutes ago, Finisher said:

It doesn't seem like DD ascertained whether Jones would be open to a trade. It seems like DD negotiated a trade with Philly and AFTER THE FACT determined Jones was, in fact, not going to waive his no trade.

Why would you waste your time banging out a deal(s) for a player that isn't going to waive his no trade when you have a half dozen other players who could be moved? Why would you now open up Jones to more scrutiny when a simple verification beforehand would have caused you to not bother hammering out a trade.

Fair enough to question, if that's true... though it's debatable, and speculative as to how it actually played out.