How and when will MLB resume in 2020? Update: Owners Agree - Proposal Submitted to Union

[DrungoHazewood]

1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

LOL

I was wondering when the famous OH Historian would make an appearance in his wheelhouse of expertise.

Reynolds wasnt half bad at first, absolute menace to society at third.

In 1896 the Orioles, using gloves like that, led the league with a .945 fielding percentage and only made 296 errors.  Or a little more than two a game.  They had a 3.67 ERA, but allowed 5.02 runs/game.  And you can bet that any number of balls that would be easily fielded today were scored hits because of a combination of equipment and groundskeeping that would embarrass a decent community ballpark today.

[DrungoHazewood]

Also, the '96 Orioles hit 23 homers and 100 triples, stole 441 bases, and struck out 201 times.  Or 22 times fewer than Mark Reynolds did in 2009 by himself.  They scored 7.5 runs/game. 

Their batters were hit by almost one pitch a game, which is the 4th-highest total of all time.  Oriole teams of that era are about half of the top ten totals of all time, including the record 160 by the '98 O's.

[Redskins Rick]

1 minute ago, DrungoHazewood said:

In 1896 the Orioles, using gloves like that, led the league with a .945 fielding percentage and only made 296 errors.  Or a little more than two a game.  They had a 3.67 ERA, but allowed 5.02 runs/game.  And you can bet that any number of balls that would be easily fielded today were scored hits because of a combination of equipment and groundskeeping that would embarrass a decent community ballpark today.

I heard horror stories that elem school sandlots were in better shape.

[atomic]

25 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Also, the '96 Orioles hit 23 homers and 100 triples, stole 441 bases, and struck out 201 times.  Or 22 times fewer than Mark Reynolds did in 2009 by himself.  They scored 7.5 runs/game. 

Their batters were hit by almost one pitch a game, which is the 4th-highest total of all time.  Oriole teams of that era are about half of the top ten totals of all time, including the record 160 by the '98 O's.

Sounds pretty exciting game. 

[scOtt]

1 hour ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Also, the '96 Orioles hit 23 homers and 100 triples, stole 441 bases, and struck out 201 times.  Or 22 times fewer than Mark Reynolds did in 2009 by himself.  They scored 7.5 runs/game. 

Their batters were hit by almost one pitch a game, which is the 4th-highest total of all time.  Oriole teams of that era are about half of the top ten totals of all time, including the record 160 by the '98 O's.

John McGraw was especially famous for that wasn't he?

[DrungoHazewood]

7 minutes ago, scOtt said:

John McGraw was especially famous for that wasn't he?

His best bud Hughie Jennings.  I doubt we ever again see a season with 19 walks and a .472 OBP.

                                                                                
Rk               Player HBP Year Age  Tm Lg   G  PA  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI  BB
1       Hughie Jennings  51 1896  27 BLN NL 130 602 521 125 209 27  9  0 121  19
2              Ron Hunt  50 1971  30 MON NL 152 638 520  89 145 20  3  5  38  58
3       Hughie Jennings  46 1898  29 BLN NL 143 665 534 135 175 25 11  1  87  78
4       Hughie Jennings  46 1897  28 BLN NL 117 544 439 133 156 26  9  2  79  42
5            Dan McGann  39 1898  26 BLN NL 145 635 535  99 161 18  8  5 106  53
6            Dan McGann  37 1899  27 TOT NL 140 580 498 114 148 20 12  7  90  35
7            Curt Welch  36 1891  29 BAL AA 132 627 514 122 138 22 10  3  55  77
8            Don Baylor  35 1986  37 BOS AL 160 687 585  93 139 23  1 31  94  62
9          Craig Biggio  34 1997  31 HOU NL 162 744 619 146 191 37  8 22  81  84
10           Curt Welch  34 1890  28 TOT AA 122 556 464 116 115 25  4  2  45  58
11         Tommy Tucker  33 1889  25 BAL AA 134 602 527 103 196 22 11  5  99  42
12      Hughie Jennings  32 1895  26 BLN NL 131 613 529 159 204 41  7  4 125  24

[Aristotelian]

4 hours ago, Redskins Rick said:

Dead ball, gloves were pretty sketchy thin, and bats were tooth picks, compared to these days.

You guys ever watch cricket? They don't even use gloves!

 

[GuidoSarducci]

8 hours ago, Aristotelian said:

You guys ever watch cricket? They don't even use gloves!

 

I've read the rules of cricket like 10 times and still don't really understand whats going on.   The only thing I get is catching the ball before it hits the ground is an out, like in baseball.  Also how hard is that ball?   And how fast is it going off the bat ? 

[DrungoHazewood]

13 hours ago, Aristotelian said:

You guys ever watch cricket? They don't even use gloves!

 

Yes, they're awesome. I always imagine cricket field players taunting baseball players for using gloves, and baseball players taunting cricketers for their big, flat bats.

[DrungoHazewood]

4 hours ago, GuidoSarducci said:

I've read the rules of cricket like 10 times and still don't really understand whats going on.   The only thing I get is catching the ball before it hits the ground is an out, like in baseball.  Also how hard is that ball?   And how fast is it going off the bat ? 

The basics are pretty simple, although I'm sure there's all kinds of nuance I don't get.

- Bowler throws ball to try to knock bails off wicket to get batter out. Usually on a bounce to take advantage of unpredictable surface, that wears down as the game goes on.
- The bowler has to throw with a stiff elbow.  Which baseball used 150 years ago.
- Batter is defending wicket, while also trying to score runs by running back and forth to other wicket.
- Batter can be put out if the ball is returned from the field and the bails are knocked off when he's running in the middle.
- In limited overs cricket the bowler can only throw so many pitches before the innings is over, which serves as a kind of shot clock - the batter has to eventually go on offense and not just totally "foul" off balls to defend the wicket, or he'll run out of chances.
- The ball is very much like a baseball, just with a seam around the middle.  It's hard.
- The ball can go fast.  Bowlers get a run-up, and can throw about as fast as a pitcher.
- There is also traditional unlimited overs games that can take five days.  All 11 on each team bat, and that's an innings.
- A great batting performance is a Century - 100 runs before being put out.
- There's a boundary, a big oval set back 200 (?) feet from the pitch in the middle.  Hit it over on the fly and it's six runs, on the roll or bounce and it's four.
- Scores are quoted in runs and wickets.  The team batting second has to catch up and pass the other, and will win if they match the other team's runs with fewer wickets being taken.

[Aristotelian]

5 hours ago, GuidoSarducci said:

I've read the rules of cricket like 10 times and still don't really understand whats going on.   The only thing I get is catching the ball before it hits the ground is an out, like in baseball.  Also how hard is that ball?   And how fast is it going off the bat ? 

That's right. I watched a ton of cricket when I was jetlagged in London and it was the only thing on the hotel TV. You can also get the batter out by knocking over the "wickets". How they score runs is a mystery to me but it has to do with running back and forth along that pitch area instead of bases. They also bat for what seems like forever, I believe they go all the way through the order before switching sides. I don't know how hard the ball is but my impression is it comes off the bat about as fast as a baseball.

[DrungoHazewood]

18 hours ago, scOtt said:

http://livetv.sx/enx/eventinfo/925402_neman_grodno_energetik_bgu/#_

I'm trying to watch the Rukh Brest - FC Minsk match right now, and I'm pretty sure this stream is dicey enough that my entire life has been compromised by the KGB.  It's halftime, but ads keep popping up in the middle of the screen, the resolution is like 640x480 and trying to click on any of the play/pause/volume controls results in pop-up of full-screen ads of dubious origin.

scOtt, your part of the underworld is strange.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

5 hours ago, Aristotelian said:

That's right. I watched a ton of cricket when I was jetlagged in London and it was the only thing on the hotel TV. You can also get the batter out by knocking over the "wickets". How they score runs is a mystery to me but it has to do with running back and forth along that pitch area instead of bases. They also bat for what seems like forever, I believe they go all the way through the order before switching sides. I don't know how hard the ball is but my impression is it comes off the bat about as fast as a baseball.

I've watch cricket before when I was London on the hotel television too and I had no idea what I was watching. I'm sure the rules make sense if I understood them, but the sport reminds me of Calvinball. 

[scOtt]

5 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

I'm trying to watch the Rukh Brest - FC Minsk match right now, and I'm pretty sure this stream is dicey enough that my entire life has been compromised by the KGB.  It's halftime, but ads keep popping up in the middle of the screen, the resolution is like 640x480 and trying to click on any of the play/pause/volume controls results in pop-up of full-screen ads of dubious origin.

scOtt, your part of the underworld is strange.

Yeah, I always watch O's away ST games from that site. Has been rock solid in the past. This year tho it has been really dicey. You can't full screen or unmute it or it opens another window and a hundred IE browser windows. Opens IE continuously til you can hit ctrl-alt-del and stop it.

[MongoBoy]