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11 minutes ago, interloper said:

Odor immediately said he was "uncomfortable" playing 3B and he has not played there at all this spring to my knowledge. 

Yikes. He did play there 33 games with NYY. All his other MLB games have been at 2B, none at SS. 

Today Odor is starting 2B with Urias on bench. Looks like he has mostly gotten 2B reps.

Mateo is getting the bulk of SS reps while Urias is getting a mix of 2B, 3B, and SS. 

I really hope Urias plays every day in some capacity. There is no way we should be accommodating Odor's comfort level at the sacrifice of the development of any of the younger team controlled players.  

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Yikes. He did play there 33 games with NYY. All his other MLB games have been at 2B, none at SS.  Today Odor is starting 2B with Urias on bench. Looks like he has mostly gotten 2B reps. Mate

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The only thing in Odor's favor is that Owings is on a minor league contract, so we could keep control of him without making the 28 man. Odor could be backup 2B/3B while also giving a LH bat. If a back

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Agreed, I wish it was Odor on the minor league contract. 

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1 minute ago, wildcard said:

JMO but I think Mattson is injured as begins on the 10 day IL.   I don't see Gillaspie or Jones being DFA'd.

No need for trades IMO.  DFA'd Odor and Bannon.  There are plenty of guys with options to get to 28.

Sure, I had forgotten about Bannon initially, but I agree he's at-risk. Barely played a lick this spring as a 40-man guy which doesn't bode well for him. 

Jones was a very quick option. He continues to look completely overmatched on both sides of the ball. Mateo has vaulted ahead of him in the depth chart, and guys like Vavra are breathing down his neck below him as well. 

My reasoning with Gillaspie is that he's kind of a project and the absence of the Rule 5 draft makes it easier to DFA him. But that's a total guess and I could see him being stickier. 

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4 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Yikes. He did play there 33 games with NYY. All his other MLB games have been at 2B, none at SS. 

Today Odor is starting 2B with Urias on bench. Looks like he has mostly gotten 2B reps.

Mateo is getting the bulk of SS reps while Urias is getting a mix of 2B, 3B, and SS. 

I really hope Urias plays every day in some capacity. There is no way we should be accommodating Odor's comfort level at the sacrifice of the development of any of the younger team controlled players.  

Totally agree, and I think Urias will be a starter. Just hoping Odor was a break in case of emergency signing... If he makes the roster, it could be as a platoon thing at 2B, with Urias moving to SS and Mateo going to 3B or the bench. 

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5 minutes ago, interloper said:

Sure, I had forgotten about Bannon initially, but I agree he's at-risk. Barely played a lick this spring as a 40-man guy which doesn't bode well for him. 

Jones was a very quick option. He continues to look completely overmatched on both sides of the ball. Mateo has vaulted ahead of him in the depth chart, and guys like Vavra are breathing down his neck below him as well. 

My reasoning with Gillaspie is that he's kind of a project and the absence of the Rule 5 draft makes it easier to DFA him. But that's a total guess and I could see him being stickier. 

I think Gillaspie is ticketed for AA.  But they like his arm and think  he will be claimed if DFA'd.

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On this god awful broadcast today, Roch was just mentioning how this situation is different with Odor compared to Sanchez because of the money (which is nothing either way btw)

While I get it, it’s still a roster spot.  What has Odor done that he should make the team?  Because he has hit some homers?

Hes not a good player.  I don’t get how this should be some guarantee just because he’s getting the ML minimum.

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36 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Yikes. He did play there 33 games with NYY. All his other MLB games have been at 2B, none at SS. 

Today Odor is starting 2B with Urias on bench. Looks like he has mostly gotten 2B reps.

Mateo is getting the bulk of SS reps while Urias is getting a mix of 2B, 3B, and SS. 

I really hope Urias plays every day in some capacity. There is no way we should be accommodating Odor's comfort level at the sacrifice of the development of any of the younger team controlled players.  

Agreed.  There's no way Odor should be getting playing time over Urias for any reason.

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On this god awful broadcast today, Roch was just mentioning how this situation is different with Odor compared to Sanchez because of the money (which is nothing either way btw)

While I get it, it’s still a roster spot.  What has Odor done that he should make the team?  Because he has hit some homers?

Hes not a good player.  I don’t get how this should be some guarantee just because he’s getting the ML minimum.

He punched Jose Bautista, too.

But yeah, he's got some pop.  That's really gotta be it.  I mean, power is cheap these days but sheesh.  Odor doesn't really belong anywhere.  Urias has some talent and needs to play every day, he could be a solid piece for this club for the next 3-4 years.  Mateo has more upside than Odor, he needs to play each day.  With the current crop that we've got, I'd rather see if Gutierrez can still play that slick defense at third.  

Odor doesn't really have a spot here.  I don't understand it but whatever.  

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2 hours ago, now said:

Tony this is no knock on you but your take on Odor is revealing... basically that the guy can't hit but the O's like his left-handed bat. This kind of rationale is common but to me is nonsensical. On par with a crappy pitcher being somehow defended as an "innings eater," LOL.

I mean they want a Left-handed bat on their bench. I truly think they want Odor to be that guy but he's playing himself off the team in my estimation. He's been terrible.

I don't think anyone thought he would be this bad. He can't make good contact at all.

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2 hours ago, wildcard said:

Tony, I am trying to figure out who are the 10 you think will go.  From what you said I see:

1: Ellis,  2: Lakins, 3:Watkins, 4: Bemboom,  5:Taylor,  6: Nevin, 7: McKenna

Who are the other 3?

I know Mateo can play the outfield.  But has he played it this spring?  If he did  I missed  it.

My Opinion:  Agree that McKenna has not hit but with the bigger LF I think he wins a spot for defense.

I have seen zip from Odor. I hope he is DFA'd before opening day.

 

Fry, Baumann and Lakins.

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