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1 minute ago, eddie83 said:

Norby has no position. Rogers is bad right now. He wasn’t this bad in Miami. 
 

Dominguez has been good.

I think the issue isn’t what we gave up, but what we got, and the question is, if that was the best we could get would it be better to go ahead and do it anyway even if Roger is terrible, or to hold onto your assets, even though they will be diminishing in value?

I don’t have the answer to that, but I’m pretty sure that Elias is confident his team can fix anybody, he didn’t consider it as much of a risk.

The problem is at the moment we don’t need somebody who needs fixing. We need somebody who can step right in and be a positive contributor.

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1 minute ago, eddie83 said:

Norby has no position. Rogers is bad right now. He wasn’t this bad in Miami. 
 

Dominguez has been good.

From the Fangraphs chat today:

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Brian: Do you think the Orioles see something fixable in Trevor Rogers? On deadline day the deal was a head-scratcher… and since then it only looks worse.

Ben Clemens: I think that they definitely do

Ben Clemens: he’s been omg cover your eyes awful as an O, no argument there

Ben Clemens: I’m circling around writing about the changes he’s made since going to Baltimore, but it’s tough when he’s just getting so crushed

So, if we are being charitable, we could say the O's are trying to make changes on the fly and he's having trouble implementing them.

 

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3 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

Norby has no position. Rogers is bad right now. He wasn’t this bad in Miami. 
 

Dominguez has been good.

Nothing in Rogers peripherals/Statcast showed his second half season with the Marlins was sustainable. 

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7 minutes ago, Brooks The Great said:

You're crazy to: 

1. Not be livid that Elias traded for a pitcher as obviously terrible as Rogers when Elias badly needed to significantly upgrade the bullpen, which Elias failed to do. 

2. Not be concerned with giving up Norby, who is worth more than a mediocre #5 SP by himself, and who could have helped us this season, especially after Westburg went down. And yes, I know Westburg broke his hand after the deadline, but Norby had value to this team as right-handed depth both in the infield and outfield.

Elias upgraded the bullpen at the deadline by acquiring Dominguez alone.  Maybe not "significantly" but he is an upgrade.

Norby might be worth more than a #5 SP who is rental, but obviously he is not worth one under control for multiple years, not even by himself.  Pitching was very expensive this trade deadline, and no one appears to be comfortable with Norby's defense.

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Just now, Can_of_corn said:

From the Fangraphs chat today:

So, if we are being charitable, we could say the O's are trying to make changes on the fly and he's having trouble implementing them.

 

Almost like those changes would be better made in the minors 

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Just now, Can_of_corn said:

From the Fangraphs chat today:

So, if we are being charitable, we could say the O's are trying to make changes on the fly and he's having trouble implementing them.

 

 Completely fair. They obviously saw something. 

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7 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

The guy is batting nearly 400 and slugging nearly 500 for the O’s. Tough crowd.

I guess if you think he will just be the BABIP king for the rest of the season then sure, he’ll be great. Hard to believe he will be able keep hitting grounders to second for singles and maintain a BABIP over .500

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