2011 All-Star Game in Arizona in jeopardy?

[orioles119]

http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/immigration-law-cost-arizona-star-game-push-boycott/story?id=10511724

Although I don't know how long it could take for this to get locked.

[MurphDogg]

The MLBPA has also expressed concerns. This seems like it will affect baseball, what with Arizona being one of the two spring training sites and each team having players that at a glance may merit some scrutiny under the law. Players don't carry papers on them and work visas are customarily kept with the team for efficiency reasons rather than with the traveling players because teams don't want the headache of requiring that they be entrusted with documents that are a huge pain to replace if lost.

[orioles119]

The MLBPA has also expressed concerns. This seems like it will affect baseball, what with Arizona being one of the two spring training sites and each team having players that at a glance may merit some scrutiny under the law. Players don't carry papers on them and work visas are customarily kept with the team for efficiency reasons rather than with the traveling players because teams don't want the headache of requiring that they be entrusted with documents that are a huge pain to replace if lost.

So I guess that means that the Diamondbacks have to relocate ASAP as well?

[MurphDogg]

So I guess that means that the Diamondbacks have to relocate ASAP as well?

I doubt it, this seems like one of those political things that will eventually blow over whether it ever ends up being enforced or not. It is surprising to see MLBPA jump in to such a hot political issue though, and there are other teams that would be happy to have the 2011 All-Star game in their newly built stadiums, the Nats and the Mets just to name two.

[Icterus galbula]

I doubt it, this seems like one of those political things that will eventually blow over whether it ever ends up being enforced or not.

Yeah, I think you are right. I think the Arizona law was largely a prompt for the Federal Govt. to make the policy clear. Either that happens (in whatever form), or the AZ law gets repealed, but either way I think this will wind up being a non-issue.

[crpravens30]

The exact same law is going to be put forth in MD to a vote as well. I cannot wait.

[Mark Carver]

The exact same law is going to be put forth in MD to a vote as well. I cannot wait.

Just because someone proposes the law, it has to go through committee, where is will never see the light of day. There will be no vote on it...

[crpravens30]

Just because someone proposes the law, it has to go through committee, where is will never see the light of day. There will be no vote on it...

I understand, it should though.

[orioles119]

The exact same law is going to be put forth in MD to a vote as well. I cannot wait.

Well, let's stay on topic... I understand the law (about actually enforcing a law on the books, but that's just an opinion) is very controversial, but should it really come to boycotting the state of Arizona in respect to hurting the Diamondbacks and the local Phoenix community by repealing the 2011 All-Star game?

I think not and hope the stink about it would blow over by decision time on this matter.

[BaltimoreTerp]

Well, let's stay on topic... I understand the law (about actually enforcing a law on the books, but that's just an opinion) is very controversial, but should it really come to boycotting the state of Arizona in respect to hurting the Diamondbacks and the local Phoenix community by repealing the 2011 All-Star game?

I think not and hope the stink about it would blow over by decision time on this matter.

There's a lot of comparisons being made to the Martin Luther King Day issue back in 1990. Phoenix lost the Super Bowl over that.

It will be interesting to see exactly how this issue evolves, because there's a lot at stake economically, much of which is tied directly or indirectly to sports.

[waroriole]

No way this law will ever be upheld, so this will probably all be for naught. I can't believe they had the audacity to try to bring it up. I'm not going to talk about it anymore b/c it's just going to lead to the thread being shut down.

[Mad Mark]

The Arizona immigration law falls squarely into the "I'm gonna set my house on fire to prove how bad the local fire dept. is" category and will be overturned long before the 2011 AS game.

It's a non-factor in the end.

[ShoelesJoe]

No way this law will ever be upheld, so this will probably all be for naught. I can't believe they had the audacity to try to bring it up. I'm not going to talk about it anymore b/c it's just going to lead to the thread being shut down.

For immigrants it is a condition of admission to the USA that they carry documentary proof of residency status at all times, and be prepared to produce it to law enforcement officials.

That's not Arizona's "new" law, but Federal Law that's been on the books for seventy years, and upheld multiple times in court. So I'd say the chances are excellent that AZ will defeat any challenges should they arise. Also, be aware that much of the media is hopelessly biased on this subject, and lets just say honest reporting of the facts has been wanting. Cops don't have the authority to just walk up to people and demand proof of residency. The person has to be already detained for other reasons, and all they'll need is a drivers license to show they're not here illegally.

Given that fact that the vast majority of Americans (70% in a recent National poll) support this kind of common sense law wrt discouraging illegal immigration I doubt MLB does anything.

[waroriole]

For immigrants it is a condition of admission to the USA that they carry documentary proof of residency status at all times, and be prepared to produce it to law enforcement officials.

That's not Arizona's "new" law, but Federal Law that's been on the books for seventy years, and upheld multiple times in court. So I'd say the chances are excellent that AZ will defeat any challenges should they arise. Also, be aware that much of the media is hopelessly biased on this subject, and lets just say honest reporting of the facts has been wanting. Cops don't have the authority to just walk up to people and demand proof of residency. The person has to be already detained for other reasons, and all they'll need is a drivers license to show they're not here illegally.

Given that fact that the vast majority of Americans (70% in a recent National poll) support this kind of common sense law wrt discouraging illegal immigration I doubt MLB does anything.

My understanding is that police are required to question people if they have a "reasonable suspicion" that they are here illegally. That is taking Terry v. Ohio to extremes not intended by the Supreme Court. So, if that is the case it is a clear violation against the unreasonable search and seizure clause of the 4th Amendment.

[BaltimoreTerp]

For immigrants it is a condition of admission to the USA that they carry documentary proof of residency status at all times, and be prepared to produce it to law enforcement officials.

That's not Arizona's "new" law, but Federal Law that's been on the books for seventy years, and upheld multiple times in court. So I'd say the chances are excellent that AZ will defeat any challenges should they arise. Also, be aware that much of the media is hopelessly biased on this subject, and lets just say honest reporting of the facts has been wanting. Cops don't have the authority to just walk up to people and demand proof of residency. The person has to be already detained for other reasons, and all they'll need is a drivers license to show they're not here illegally.

Given that fact that the vast majority of Americans (70% in a recent National poll) support this kind of common sense law wrt discouraging illegal immigration I doubt MLB does anything.

My understanding is that police are required to question people if they have a "reasonable suspicion" that they are here illegally. That is taking Terry v. Ohio to extremes not intended by the Supreme Court. So, if that is the case it is a clear violation against the unreasonable search and seizure clause of the 4th Amendment.

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