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I did like that Zach showed that he could strike the side out.

I'd rather have seen him retire the side on ten or fewer pitches, instead of 23. No way he's available for Game 3 now, though in truth, I probably wouldn't have used him in Game 3 even if he'd had a ten pitch outing.

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I guess you didn't enjoy Game 2 of the 1979 ALCS?

For 2-0, this hasn't been the sharpest pair of ballgames. We've seen, in just 18 innings:

-Travis Snider thrown out stretching a single into a double on a play right in front of him

-Ryan Flaherty forced to dive to complete what should have been an easy rundown

-Steve Pearce make a ridiculous attempt to score from first on a double that succeeded only by the catcher's incompetence

-six straight Ks by the offense after Archer left

-Adam Jones picked off first

-Caleb Joseph crossed up allowing a runner to reach on a Britton strikeout

-Wei Yin-Chen forgetting how many outs there were

-Adam Jones and Travis Snider colliding in the outfield

-1-for-20 after Pearce's HR in the second

Very good points. I expect to see more mistakes in April than at other times of year. Hopefully they'll get it out of their system while still winning their share of ball games.

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I'd rather have seen him retire the side on ten or fewer pitches, instead of 23. No way he's available for Game 3 now, though in truth, I probably wouldn't have used him in Game 3 even if he'd had a ten pitch outing.

I also want to see him mix his pitches a bit more. First game was promising. I guess with a one run lead he didn't want to get beat on anything but his sinker.

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I like to think that if Cabrera and Flaherty had turned that other missed double play, then Gausman wouldn't have given up that 2nd 2-run shot. A 6-3 win wouldn't be nearly as scrutinized.

Double clutch by Cabrera on the throw too. Even so, I don't think they catch Beckham at first. Due is fast.

The real reason that game should never have been close was the two missed strike calls when Gausman is pitching. He never gives up the home run if the ump can see straight and calls those breaking pitches where they go over the plate and not where they end up. It's the same problem Bedard had before he got really good, umps would never call the breaking ball he threw a strike because it ended by the right handed batters feet, but it definitely broke over the plate.

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I really dislike games where we break out to a big lead, then the bats go to sleep and our pitchers let the other team back in the game. It's a win, and I'll take it, but that was an aggravating game to watch!

Yes. Worst kind of game is a safe lead that turns into a nail biter. This may make me less of fan or something, but my mood is always best in an O's blowout that starts with a six-spot in the first and never gets any closer.

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I also want to see him mix his pitches a bit more. First game was promising. I guess with a one run lead he didn't want to get beat on anything but his sinker.

Britton has an uncanny ability to just throw the sinker and beat hitters with it. Mixing pitches isn't as big a deal for him.

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True. But you don't want to see this kind of thing become a frequent occurrence. But it does seem like playing down to the opponent's level is the Orioles' style. They don't often have those blowout wins and somehow they always seem to let up enough to keep the games tense. I don't like it, but I just keep telling myself it's better to win this way than to have a losing season.

There is no such thing as "playing down to the opponents level" in the AL East, especially two games into the season.

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There is no such thing as "playing down to the opponents level" in the AL East, especially two games into the season.

There is no playing down to an opponent's level when you have talent distribution like this:

100 Best MLB teams

95 Average MLB teams

90 Bad MLB teams

85 Average Japanese teams

80 Average AAA team

70 Average AA team

65 Mexican League teams

60 Average A ball team

50 Average Rookie team

40 Good college team

It's pretty commonplace for the worst MLB team to win a series against the best. That's not because the good team was just screwing around, goofing off. It's because the bad team is still among the top small fraction of 1% of baseball teams in the world.

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I'll take my least favorite way to win over my favorite way to lose any day.
I don't have a favorite way to lose nor do I think there is such a thing. That's me. There are losses that I hate more than others (e.g. Yankees) if that's what you meant.
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I don't have a favorite way to lose nor do I think there is such a thing. That's me. There are losses that I hate more than others (e.g. Yankees) if that's what you meant.

My preferred way of losing would be if players important to the future perform well, like Gausman, throws 7 shutout innings with 9 Ks and Machado and Schoop hit two home runs each, but then a player who doesn't really factor into our future, like Matusz, blows the lead somehow. Still a loss, still hard to take, but at least the guys we'll be relying on in the future are showing they can handle the burden. Conversely, my least favorite wins are the ones where the one-year rentals are doing all the work while our core guys are struggling.

The other answer, for the fantasy guys out there, is if the Orioles lose but it's guys on your fantasy team doing the damage.

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I really dislike games where we break out to a big lead, then the bats go to sleep and our pitchers let the other team back in the game. It's a win, and I'll take it, but that was an aggravating game to watch!

LOL now were going to nitpick a win. OK

I'll be honest I LIKE ANY WIN ANY WAY WE CAN GET IT. ;)

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