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Kevin Gausman Today 2015

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Frobby Hangout Grand Counsel

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I was going to start a separate thread on this, but I'll just stick it here.

I think Gausman's performance in his last 6-7 starts down the stretch is the single most important thing for us to watch with respect to assessing whether we can put together a contending team in 2016. For us to contend next year, I believe it is a must for Gausman to step up his game and be a TOR starter in 2016. Based on the evidence to date, I am not that confident that he can do it. But how he does the rest of this season will say a lot about whether it is realistic to hope that he can.

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I agree. But I feel that the O's screwed up the chances of Gausman taking the next step by stunting his growth as a starting pitcher by throwing him in the bullpen and yo-yo'ing him the last 2 years. It was extremely clear (and still is) that he needs to develop an EFFECTIVE curveball and/or slider.

On top of that, I also really hate that Ubaldo has lost everything this second half. It actually leads me to believe the next 2 years is going to be a huge albatross with him. And giving him a starting spot already puts a hole in the rotation.

Are you that confident in Gausman, Tillman, Gonzalez and Ubaldo? I think Tillman and/or Gonzo can bounce back.

Personally I think the biggest issue is Hunter Harvey. If he's not healthy, it sets this franchise back dramatically, IMHO. Bundy is toast as far as I'm concerned. And there are no impact arms in the minors as far as starters go aside from Harvey. Otherwise we're banking on guys like Miranda.

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I agree. But I feel that the O's screwed up the chances of Gausman taking the next step by stunting his growth as a starting pitcher by throwing him in the bullpen and yo-yo'ing him the last 2 years. It was extremely clear (and still is) that he needs to develop an EFFECTIVE curveball and/or slider.

I agree that the Orioles have not done a good job of putting Gausman in the best position to develop. It's water under the bridge now, and they are just going to have to nurse him along at the major league level and hopefully he can gradually get his breaking stuff up to major league standards.

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20 OUTS: 10 Groundouts, 3 Strikeouts, 3 Lineouts, 2 Flyouts, 1 Out at Home Tagging Up on a Fly Ball, 1 Out Trying to Stretch a Single

K.J. GAUSMAN O(vs. RANGERS, 8/28)

IP:. 6.67

H:.. 9 l(2 Home Runs, 1 Triple, 6 Singles)

R:O 4

BB: 1

SO: 3

Pitches: 102 (66 Strikes, 36 Balls)

2015 ERA: 4.39

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PITCHES BY INNINGS

12 (71 Strikes, 5 Balls)

17 (12 Strikes, 5 Balls)

11 (81 Strikes, 3 Balls)

19 (11 Strikes, 8 Balls)

18 (13 Strikes, 5 Balls)

11 (71 Strikes, 4 Balls)

14 (81 Strikes, 6 Balls) *

* Gausman recorded 2 outs before departing in the 7th inning.

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The more Gausman pitches the more if the same ole same ole. Just good enough or mediocre enough to lose as he always leaves one or two too many fat pitches that kill him. Palmer and Demosey both hit the nail on the head as many of us have been harping on with him-he needs a curve ball and somehow hasn't developed one yet.

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Still a work in progress. He should get better once he develops a curve ball. Right now, he is having a few problems.

I'd say "if" he develops a curve ball, not "once" he does. Not everyone can do it. And it's not easy to do while pitching at the major league level.

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Mediocre. Not developed. Desperately needs a slider or a curve. Preferably both. Cubs can develop Arrieta in 3 months. O's screw up Gausman for 2 years. Same ole.

Yup! Put me in the camp that thinks Gausman would develop some pitches in another organization, it's pathetic.

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Yup! Put me in the camp that thinks Gausman would develop some pitches in another organization, it's pathetic.

Even if he developed a cutter which I understand is easier to learn it would benefit his other two pitches. Arietta has used his with great success since being traded.

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